W. Wayne Liauh writes:
> My perception is that some "old" guards ("old," in terms of Solaris
> experience, not necessarily old age) took this opportunity and
> ganged together to try to stage a coup against the "new management".
> So far, this "new management"--whatever that means--seems to be
> doing everything right (e.g., insisting on using the /usr/bin/bash
> as the default shell, bringing out an "OpenSolaris" LiveCD on time,
> etc., etc.)

That's an interesting "perception," but it's unfortunately completely
divorced from reality.

There's no "coup" here, staged or otherwise.  There's no complaint
about the use of bash or staying on schedule or producing a live CD in
front of the OGB.  There's no complaint about having Indiana be
successful.

The one question that _is_ in front of us is whether a single project
may declare itself to be the "OpenSolaris Distribution" without
actually getting such an endorsement from the community first.  It's
about the exclusive use of that name and the special status the
project is claiming.  [Apologies to the project team members, but it's
hard to distinguish succinctly between the implementation team and the
marketing.]

That claim seems to be a core question.  My _own_ position on it is
that, although I certainly recognize Sun as the legitimate trademark
holder, that doesn't in any way invalidate the OpenSolaris community's
interest in the use of the name, and that interest is community-wide.
Thus, without respect to what the trademark owners might do, and what
name the community might have, the community must decide for itself
how to reserve bits of the common good for exclusive use, and (per the
constitution) that means a community-wide vote.  No such vote has
occurred.

In short, no vote == problem.  It's not about personalities or
management or coups or any other such perceptions.

> I am sorry that my bird sized brain only allows me to see things black and 
> white, or good guys versus bad.  This undoubtedly caused me to fail to see 
> things that are "so easy to understand" (my would-be but won't-be-bothered 
> response to a separate post), and thus miss "the point" entirely.  Someone 
> from the OGB can call me stupid (as someone did in a separate post),

Someone did?  I didn't see that happen.  Just to make sure, I re-read
my response to your earlier posting, and I see only a discussion of
the claims you've made, and not a word about you personally.

> but, unfortunately, he (there is no she in the OGB) cannot stop me from doing 
> the "perceiving".

I agree that we need a more diverse leadership in _many_ ways -- in
terms of affiliation, geography, background, and, yes, gender.  As
it's an elected position, though, the only remedy I can suggest is to
encourage more people to run and for core contributors to think hard
about where to cast their votes.

-- 
James Carlson, Solaris Networking              <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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