Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Nicolas Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> Jörg seems to want the ARC and c-teams to use a different method than
>> they use today for deciding when some utility (or library, or whatever)
>> name is a conflict with another existing one.
>>
>> I recommend that Jörg make a proposal for such a change without making
>> such a proposal specific to his troubles with star, compare, etc...
>>
>> I'm not sure that we can come up with such a method that will: a) allow
>> OpenSolaris to evolve and grow, while b) preventing any conflicts with
>>     
>
> As long as it it impossible to implement the arc decisions in OpenSolaris,
> OpenSolaris cannot evolve.
>
> You have to verify that the way it is currently handled actually works.
> My impression is that it is either impossible to integrate stuff at all
> or that some people inside Sun boycott the integration of star. If you
> would ask me now, I could only say "it does not work".
>
> Think about how to find a way to change this....
>   

Jorg, you are in SWAN now.  You can put together a workspace, integrate 
star into it, send out the code reviews and ultimately submit the RTI.  
Until you have an RTI that is refused, or an ARC case that is rejected, 
I don't think it is fair to assume *anyone* is rejecting anything if 
you've done. 

But its also not fair to expect them to do this work for you.  If 
someone else at Sun wants star badly then *they* could do the work.

So, if your ARC cases have been approved, put together a workspace, and 
send out code reviews as the first step.  Its really not that hard.

I'd offer to help you with it myself, except I know nothing about the 
SFW consolidation, and have little interest learning it just to help you 
out.  If however you want to integrate into ON, I can offer you some 
basic suggestions... but I'm still not going to do the work for you 
myself!  I don't think anyone else will, either.

As my dad always said, "Actions speak louder than words."  Demonstrate 
your commitment to getting star integrated by your deed rather than your 
e-mails.

    -- Garrett

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