On Fri, 14 Dec 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
>> As long as it it impossible to implement the arc decisions in OpenSolaris,
>> OpenSolaris cannot evolve.
>
> ARC does not "decide" as much as approves, approves w/ TCRs or denies.
>
> But projects approved by the ARC are often implemented so to claim
> that that is impossible is ludicrous.
>
> But they are implemented by their stakeholders. And sometimes stakeholders
> leave and projects wither away.
>
>> You have to verify that the way it is currently handled actually works.
>> My impression is that it is either impossible to integrate stuff at all
>> or that some people inside Sun boycott the integration of star. If you
>> would ask me now, I could only say "it does not work".
>
>
> We have not seen a "request-sponsor" request from you for the
> integration of star nor have we seen any other attempt to do so.
>
> YOU will have to do the work to integrate star.
>
> *ALL* the work; you will need to get to a point that you can
> type "putback" or whatever the equivalent is for the consolidation
> you want to put it in then solicit input for code reviews etc.
>
> Possibly revisit the ARC case and see whether it needs updating
> (this is likely a minor matter, but when ARC cases are so old, they
> likely need a few touchups).
>
> Since I have seen none of those things coming from you, I'd say that
> the star integration ball is firmly in your court and you need to pick
> it up and run with it.
>
> You have mentioned star integration many times and we tell you the exact
> same thing every time. So let me ask you a question: What is it that you
> expect Sun to do first?
Followup: Question for Joerg: If I (personally) come up with a nice
command line utility the others find useful and decide to have it
integrated into OpenSolaris as "star" and go through the
integration/ARC process, just as Roland Mainz did for ksh93 - is there
anything to stop me from having *my* code placed in /usr/bin/star? I
don't think so.
If you want to get your "star" integrated into /usr/bin/star before me
(or anyone else) you best get your ask in gear. The time you're
spending on this useless thread could be better spent in getting your
"star" integrated into OpenSolaris IMHO.
Joerg: Start your "star" integration effort today - lest someone else
integrates another program called 'star' into /usr/bin before you.
And then we'll all have to suffer another Joerg S thread complaining
about how you had "star" xxxx years before that other person subsumed
"your" program name.
Joerg - I've tried to make this email as blunt as possible. Stop
trying to swim upstream. If you want "star" integrated - (per Nike)
"Do It Now".
Regards,
Al Hopper Logical Approach Inc, Plano, TX. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Voice: 972.379.2133 Fax: 972.379.2134 Timezone: US CDT
OpenSolaris Governing Board (OGB) Member - Apr 2005 to Mar 2007
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/ogb/ogb_2005-2007/
Graduate from "sugar-coating school"? Sorry - I never attended! :)
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