>> Comments on http://www.openssl.org/~appro/OPENSSL_instrument_bus/ are
>> welcomed.
> 
> But here, I think you're measuring the difference between two clocks that
> are derived from the same oscillator.  That is worrisome.  It seems
> possible an adversary could analyze the device and describe the jitter
> mathematically even if it's too complex to show up in your FFT tests.

Just a side note. Mathematical description wouldn't inevitably render it
useless. Indeed, *if* we observe manifestation of PLL jitter and *if*
jitter is result of thermal fluctuations, then what harm would it make
if we knew its distribution? Or by analogy. Not that I claim that they
are comparable, but radioactive decay is described even mathematically
and nobody questions its viability.

> Where does the underlying entropy come from, and does its safety depend
> on the clock distribution hierarchy of the system where this code runs?

As well as if knowing of this things would give real advantage to adversary.

I also want to remind that it's not a question of using it as actual
source of random numbers, but as *seed* to PRNG.

Once again I want to point out that I'm not claiming that I know "the
Answer" :-)
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