https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sign_of_the_horns came up in IRC, as the sign the 
bear is making. Obviously to me, I read it as the heavy metal gesture. 
Apparently it is offensive in some cultures, so I change my vote to -1, since I 
don’t want to offend folks in other parts of the world :).

-Jay

> On Feb 1, 2017, at 12:38 PM, Jay Faulkner <j...@jvf.cc> wrote:
> 
> Of the options presented, I think the new 3.0 version most brings to mind a 
> rocking bear.  It’s still tough to be OK with a new logo, given that pixie 
> boots is beloved by our team partially because Lucas took the time to make us 
> one — but it seems like not accepting a new logo created by the foundation 
> would lead to Ironic getting less marketing and resources, so I’m not keen to 
> go down that path. With that in mind, I’m +1 to version 3.0 of the bear.
> 
> -Jay
> 
>> On Feb 1, 2017, at 12:05 PM, Heidi Joy Tretheway <heidi...@openstack.org> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ironic team,
>> 
>> I’m sorry our second proposal again missed the mark. It wasn’t the 
>> illustrator’s intention to mimic the Bear Surprise painting that gained 
>> popularity in Russia as a meme. Our illustrator created a face-forward bear 
>> with paws shaped as if it had index and ring “fingers" down, like a hand 
>> gesture popular at a heavy metal concert. It was not meant to mimic the 
>> painting of a side-facing bear with paws and all “fingers" up to surprise. 
>> That said, once it’s seen, it’s tough to expect the community to un-see it, 
>> so we’ll take another approach.
>> 
>> The issue with your old mascot is twofold: it doesn’t fit the illustration 
>> style for the entire suite of 60+ mascots, and it contains a human-made 
>> element (drumsticks). As part of our overall guidelines, human-made objects 
>> and symbols were not allowed, and we applied these standards to all projects.
>> 
>> Your team told us you want a heavy metal bear, so we used the Kiss 
>> band-style makeup and the hand gesture to suggest metal without using an 
>> instrument or symbol. We tried to mimic your original logo’s expression. 
>> After releasing v1, we listened to your team’s comment that the first 
>> version was too angry looking, so you’ll see a range of expressions from 
>> fierce to neutral to happy. 
>> 
>> 
>> <Screenshot 2017-02-01 11.26.16.png>
>> I’d love to find a compromise with your team that will be in keeping with 
>> the style of the project logo suite. I’ll watch your ML for additional 
>> concerns about this proposed v3:   
>> <image001.png>
>> 
>> Our illustration team’s next step is to parse the community feedback from 
>> the Ironic team (note that there is a substantial amount of conflicting 
>> feedback from 21 members of your team) and determine if we have majority 
>> support for a single direction. 
>> 
>> While new project logos are optional, virtually every project asked be 
>> represented in our family of logos. Only logos in this new style will be 
>> used on the project navigator and in other promotional ways. 
>> 
>> Feel free to join me for a quick chat tomorrow at 9:30 a.m. Pacific:
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>>              
>> Heidi Joy Tretheway
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