Oh...
I'm with the group here.
Let's find something that looks nice and is not offensive to anyone.
Mathieu
On 2017-02-02 11:52 AM, Jay Faulkner wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sign_of_the_horns came up in IRC, as the sign the
bear is making. Obviously to me, I read it as the heavy metal gesture.
Apparently it is offensive in some cultures, so I change my vote to -1, since I
don’t want to offend folks in other parts of the world :).
-Jay
On Feb 1, 2017, at 12:38 PM, Jay Faulkner <j...@jvf.cc> wrote:
Of the options presented, I think the new 3.0 version most brings to mind a
rocking bear. It’s still tough to be OK with a new logo, given that pixie
boots is beloved by our team partially because Lucas took the time to make us
one — but it seems like not accepting a new logo created by the foundation
would lead to Ironic getting less marketing and resources, so I’m not keen to
go down that path. With that in mind, I’m +1 to version 3.0 of the bear.
-Jay
On Feb 1, 2017, at 12:05 PM, Heidi Joy Tretheway <heidi...@openstack.org> wrote:
Hi Ironic team,
I’m sorry our second proposal again missed the mark. It wasn’t the illustrator’s
intention to mimic the Bear Surprise painting that gained popularity in Russia as a meme.
Our illustrator created a face-forward bear with paws shaped as if it had index and ring
“fingers" down, like a hand gesture popular at a heavy metal concert. It was not
meant to mimic the painting of a side-facing bear with paws and all “fingers" up to
surprise. That said, once it’s seen, it’s tough to expect the community to un-see it, so
we’ll take another approach.
The issue with your old mascot is twofold: it doesn’t fit the illustration
style for the entire suite of 60+ mascots, and it contains a human-made element
(drumsticks). As part of our overall guidelines, human-made objects and symbols
were not allowed, and we applied these standards to all projects.
Your team told us you want a heavy metal bear, so we used the Kiss band-style
makeup and the hand gesture to suggest metal without using an instrument or
symbol. We tried to mimic your original logo’s expression. After releasing v1,
we listened to your team’s comment that the first version was too angry
looking, so you’ll see a range of expressions from fierce to neutral to happy.
<Screenshot 2017-02-01 11.26.16.png>
I’d love to find a compromise with your team that will be in keeping with the
style of the project logo suite. I’ll watch your ML for additional concerns
about this proposed v3:
<image001.png>
Our illustration team’s next step is to parse the community feedback from the
Ironic team (note that there is a substantial amount of conflicting feedback
from 21 members of your team) and determine if we have majority support for a
single direction.
While new project logos are optional, virtually every project asked be
represented in our family of logos. Only logos in this new style will be used
on the project navigator and in other promotional ways.
Feel free to join me for a quick chat tomorrow at 9:30 a.m. Pacific:
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