On Jun 15, 2017, at 3:35 PM, Jeremy Stanley <fu...@yuggoth.org> wrote:

> For me it's one of the most annoying yet challenging/interesting
> aspects: free software development is as much about community and
> politics as it is actual software development (perhaps more so).

Another way to look at it is how we see ourselves (as a community) and how 
people on the outside see OpenStack. I would imagine that someone looking at 
OpenStack for the first time would not care a whit about governance, repo 
locations, etc. They would certainly care about "what do I need to do to use 
this thing?"

What we call things isn't confusing to those of us in the community - well, at 
least to those of us who take the time to read big long email threads like 
this. We need to be clearer in how we represent OpenStack to outsiders. To that 
end, I think that limiting the term "OpenStack" to a handful of the core 
projects would make things a whole lot clearer. We can continue to present 
everything else as a marketplace, or an ecosystem, or however the more 
marketing-minded want to label it, but we should *not* call those projects 
"OpenStack".

Now I know, I work on Nova, so I'm expecting responses that "of course you 
don't care", or "OpenStack is people, and you're hurting our feelings!". So 
flame away!

-- Ed Leafe





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