Thanks for raising this Sandy,

Some questions/observations inline.

> Hey y'all,
> 
> To avoid cross-posting, please inform your -infra / -operations buddies about 
> this post. 
> 
> We've just started thinking about where notification schema files should live 
> and how they should be deployed. Kind of a tricky problem.  We could really 
> use your input on this problem ...
> 
> The assumptions:
> 1. Schema files will be text files. They'll live in their own git repo 
> (stackforge for now, ideally oslo eventually). 
> 2. Unit tests will need access to these files for local dev
> 3. Gating tests will need access to these files for integration tests
> 4. Many different services are going to want to access these files during 
> staging and production. 
> 5. There are going to be many different versions of these files. There are 
> going to be a lot of schema updates. 
> 
> Some problems / options:
> a. Unlike Python, there is no simple pip install for text files. No version 
> control per se. Basically whatever we pull from the repo. The problem with a 
> git clone is we need to tweak config files to point to a directory and that's 
> a pain for gating tests and CD. Could we assume a symlink to some well-known 
> location?
>     a': I suppose we could make a python installer for them, but that's a 
> pain for other language consumers.

Would it be unfair to push that burden onto the writers of clients
in other languages?

i.e. OpenStack, being largely python-centric, would take responsibility
for both:

  1. Maintaining the text versions of the schema in-tree (e.g. as json)

and:

  2. Producing a python-specific installer based on #1

whereas, the first Java-based consumer of these schema would take
#1 and package it up in their native format, i.e. as a jar or
OSGi bundle.

> b. In production, each openstack service could expose the schema files via 
> their REST API, but that doesn't help gating tests or unit tests. Also, this 
> means every service will need to support exposing schema files. Big 
> coordination problem.

I kind of liked this schemaURL endpoint idea when it was first
mooted at summit.

The attraction for me was that it would allow the consumer of the
notifications always have access to the actual version of schema
currently used on the emitter side, independent of the (possibly
out-of-date) version of the schema that the consumer has itself
installed locally via a static dependency.

However IIRC there were also concerns expressed about the churn
during some future rolling upgrades - i.e. if some instances of
the nova-api schemaURL endpoint are still serving out the old
schema, after others in the same deployment have already been
updated to emit the new notification version.

> c. In production, We could add an endpoint to the Keystone Service Catalog to 
> each schema file. This could come from a separate metadata-like service. 
> Again, yet-another-service to deploy and make highly available. 

Also to {puppetize|chef|ansible|...}-ize.

Yeah, agreed, we probably don't want to do down that road.

> d. Should we make separate distro packages? Install to a well known location 
> all the time? This would work for local dev and integration testing and we 
> could fall back on B and C for production distribution. Of course, this will 
> likely require people to add a new distro repo. Is that a concern?

Quick clarification ... when you say "distro packages", do you mean 
Linux-distro-specific package formats such as .rpm or .deb?

Cheers,
Eoghan
 
> Personally, I'm leaning towards option D but I'm not sure what the 
> implications are. 
> 
> We're early in thinking about these problems, but would like to start the 
> conversation now to get your opinions. 
> 
> Look forward to your feedback.
> 
> Thanks
> -Sandy
> 
> 
> 
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