Hello all,

We have our weekly OSSP IRC meeting tomorrow at 1700UTC (1200 Central) in
#openstack-meeting-alt. This thread has raised some important issues, and
we will devote a significant portion of our meeting to discussing them. My
IRC handle is "ccneill" on freenode if you'd like to get in touch with me
there. We are very interested in better integrating with the greater
OpenStack community, and are open to suggestions as to how we might
achieve that going forward.

Charles Neill

On 9/21/16, 15:35, "Thierry Carrez" <thie...@openstack.org> wrote:

>Chivers, Doug wrote:
>> My concern is with the original wording “The suggested way forward
>>there would be to remove the "Security project team"”.
>> This seems like a move to instantly reduce investment in OpenStack
>>security, because the majority of members of the Security Project are
>>corporately funded, which will be significantly impacted by the removal
>>of the security project. I have no knowledge over the difference between
>>a working group and a project, like everyone else on the project we are
>>simply here to contribute to OpenStack security, drive innovation in
>>security, deliver documentation like OSSNs, etc, rather than get
>>involved in the politics of OpenStack.
>> In response to the various questions of why no-one from our project
>>noticed that we didn’t have a nomination for the PTL, we assumed that
>>was taken care of. Realistically maybe two or three people on the
>>security project have the availability to be PTL, one being our current
>>PTL, for all the rest of us its simply not a concern until we need to
>> On a personal note, reading –dev is unfortunately a lower priority than
>>designing architectures, responding to customers and sales teams,
>>closing tickets, writing decks and on the afternoon or so I can spend
>>each week, working on my upstream projects (this week it was:
>>https://review.openstack.org/#/c/357978/5 - thanks to the Barbican team
>>for all their work). Possibly this is wrong, but I didn’t sign up as a
>>contributor to spend all my spare time reading mailing lists.
>So while I still think there is a slight disconnect (like, members of
>the security team are less often involved in other teams) that results
>in the Security team being more likely to miss the very few process
>deadlines that apply to them, I'm not convinced it justifies removing
>the "official" status of the team and make it a workgroup.
>I privately received information that explains why the PTL was not on
>top of things during election weeks. With ~60 teams around there will
>always be one or two that miss and that we must check on. It /always/ is
>symptomatic of /some/ disconnect. But here I'm not sure it passes the
>bar of "non-alignment with the community" that would make the Security
>team unfit to be an official OpenStack team...
>Thierry Carrez (ttx)
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