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From: Filip Pytloun <filip.pytl...@tcpcloud.eu>
Reply: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) 
Date: September 22, 2016 at 10:34:00
To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) 
Subject:  Re: [openstack-dev] [security] [salt] Removal of Security and 
OpenStackSalt project teams from the Big Tent

> Thank you for your feedback - this is first one since we joined Big Tent
> and very useful.
> On 2016/09/21 17:08, Davanum Srinivas wrote:
> > Data points so far are:
> > 1. No response during Barcelona planning for rooms
> > 2. Lack of candidates for PTL election
> > 3. No activity in the releases/ repository hence no entries in
> > https://releases.openstack.org/
> First releases were done during project move and it seems this was
> forgotten. Anyway there's new release planned to be done.
> > 4. Meetings are not so regular?
> > http://eavesdrop.openstack.org/meetings/openstack_salt/2016/ (supposed
> > to be weekly)
> There was decreased activity last few months mostly because one of
> members who was leading these meetings temporarily disconnected from the
> project and because there wasn't anything on agenda to discuss. Still
> these meetings were taken at least 1~2x a month which seemed to be
> sufficient.
> > 5. Is the specs repo really active?
> > http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/openstack-salt-specs/ is the
> > work being done elsewhere?
> Very excessive documentation and other info is at separate developer
> pages: http://docs.openstack.org/developer/openstack-salt/
> There should be surely new record in specs after new release is made.
> > 6. Is there an effort to add stuff to the CI jobs running on openstack
> > infrastructure? (can't seem to find much
> > http://codesearch.openstack.org/?q=salt&i=nope&files=zuul%2Flayout.yaml&repos=project-config)
> >   
> There are tests already doing mostly linting (running states in
> dry-run). More complex tests are in progress but it takes some time
> mostly because used technology is a little bit controversial (there's no
> usable standard in saltstack community yet).
> >
> > I'll stop here and switch to #openstack-salt channel to help work you
> > all through if there is a consensus/willingness from the
> > openstack-salt team that there's significant work to be done. If you
> > think you are better off not on the governance, that would be your
> > call as well.
> I think we are going to fix things, to summarize:
> - make new release for Newton + update specs
> - elect new PTL
> - be more active in openstack-dev mailing list (maybe also have
> separate ML just for our team?)

Some teams have had separate mailing lists but that's never worked to help them 
integrate better with the OpenStack community. You'd better serve yourself in 
this matter if you commit to just using openstack-dev.

> If there's more we can do, we are available at Freenode/#openstack-salt.

You might also be available elsewhere as Anita has pointed out. If you want to 
be part of the Big Tent, you have to make the effort to bridge the gaps.

Ian Cordasco

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