On Thursday 23 March 2006 13:34, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> The Tuesday 2006-03-21 at 14:13 +0100, Lenz Grimmer wrote:
> > Carlos E. R. wrote:
> > > I understand that 'b' would apply to ftp distribution, 'c' to the dvd.
> > > If it doesn't, SuSE/Novell can ask them (ie, "mutual agreement").
> >
> > This was actually what I did when I was still maintaining Pine. SUSE has
> > an explicit approval from the University of Washington to distribute
> > pine.
>
> That's fantastic! There is no problem then ;-)

I'm no licenses expert - but unless this approval allows SUSE users to change 
the code and release their changes to the public, there's still a problem with 
claiming that it's OSS. 

I don't think this changes anything - of course Novell is in the clear in 
terms of legal action - but we still need (1) the licenses to change, (2) 
these apps moved to non-oss section or (3) these apps to be replaced 
completely.

SUSE has a reputation for not being as free (libre) and open as other distros 
- I assume one of the reasons for making opensuse, the 10.0 oss-version, the 
very proactive attitude towards binary-only kernel modules etc. are partly a 
strategy to shake this image. 

Including Pine/Pico and claiming they're OSS is harmful to our image - and to 
free software altogether. I don't think this should be taken lightly.

cb400f

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