Absolutely. We agree!! :) If you need truly rich functionality, you should be writing a client app. However, if you are required to be web and can do javascript, then use it. I'm just suggesting that something as simple as bringing a div to the front is very easy to make cross platform and may be a 10 minute fix to your problem (as opposed to an elaborate server solution). I am not suggesting to go ape wild and use it everywhere. :)
-----Original Message----- From: Lars Fischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 5:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [OS-webwork] Displaying a progress page These are good arguments. But I still think you can never reach the same functionality with a browser based app compared to 'traditional' (native) clients. > IMO, if you want to create a web application that acts like a desktop > application, JavaScript is your best buddy. If you want to create a web > application that acts like a web site (click, wait, click, wait) then > don't > use it. > > Matt > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lars Fischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 1:14 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [OS-webwork] Displaying a progress page > > > > Lars, just out of curiosity, what is driving the requirement for not > > supporting the complete browser model (no javascript)? > > These are some of the reasons: > > - some IT departments do not allow JavaScript (Active Scripting) for > security reasons > - my applications should work with the most common browsers (e. g. I use > Firebird > with JavaScript turned off) and there are big differences between > several > browsers so > it's not THE browser model > - I don't want to mix user interfaces with application logic > > What do the others think about using JavaScript in J2EE applications ? > Is it 'allowed' ? > > Cheers > Lars > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mike Cannon-Brookes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:33 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Displaying a progress page > > > > Les, > > > > You could do it using DHTML, but I'm fairly sure that's not how Expedia > > do > > it. It's a LOT more error prone to do that way :) > > > > FWIW we're investigating creating a generic 'long running task' system > > for > > JIRA - used for tasks like reindexing and importing/exporting data which > > take a long time. I think using a WW action this should be relatively > > easy > > to do. > > > > Mike > > > > On 26/6/03 10:13 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > penned the words: > > > > > I haven't actually done this yet (but am planning to) -- however, > > can't > > > you take care of this behavior with dhtml?? It seems like you could > > > call a javascript function on submit that pulled a layer (actully > > > css-pos) to the top. That layer would say "in progress" with a pretty > > > animated gif or have some neat little javascript progress bar. The > > > javascript would then submit the form. When it's done, the browser > > > updates. This seems like it will work and is likely better than the > > > server side solutions. Is there something I'm missing?? BTW, I think > > > this is how expedia used to do it. > > > > > > LES > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Mike Cannon-Brookes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 7:01 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Displaying a progress page > > > > > > Uhm, well why not just make your task runnable and run it in a new > > > thread? > > > :) Or you could use a util.Timer. > > > > > > Another (nicest IMHO) alternative is to make it a scheduled task and > > use > > > something like Quartz to kick it off. > > > > > > M > > > > > > On 26/6/03 6:05 AM, "Jason Carreira" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > penned > > > the > > > words: > > > > > >> Well, for us we queue a JMS message. I'm not sure of another way to > > >> start an asynch process in the J2EE spec.... > > >> > > >>> -----Original Message----- > > >>> From: Lars Fischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:42 PM > > >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>> Subject: RE: [OS-webwork] Displaying a progress page > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Jason, > > >>> > > >>> thanks for the reply ! > > >>> > > >>> Any hint how you start the asynchronous process ? > > >>> > > >>> Lars > > >>> > > >>>> If you can start it up as an asynchronous process, you can use the > > >>>> trick of having a progress page which checks some state, such as a > > >>>> database or something in the session, and shows the progress bar or > > >>>> just a "processing..." and have it refresh itself using a > > >>> meta-refresh > > >>>> if things aren't done... If the process is done you can > > >>> forward to a > > >>>> final status page. > > >>>> > > >>>> We've used this technique pretty successfully. > > >>>> > > >>>> Jason > > >>>> > > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > > >>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 8:31 AM > > >>>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>>>> Subject: [OS-webwork] Displaying a progress page > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Does anyone have a good idea how to display a temporary > > >>>>> progress page in WW 1.x ? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I have a form where users can define paremeters for an import > > >>>>> of data into the local database. After submitting the page > > >>>>> the import method is started. This process may take a while > > >>>>> so I want to show a general progress page saying that > > >>>>> the import is running. After finishing the import I want to > > >>>>> return to the original page where users can start an import. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Does anyone know how to do this ? The problem seems to be > > >>>>> that WW is displaying the result-view AFTER the whole action > > >>>>> has finished. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Thanks in advance > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Lars > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> ------------------------------------------------------- > > >>>>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by: INetU > > >>>>> Attention Web Developers & Consultants: Become An INetU > > >>>>> Hosting Partner. Refer Dedicated Servers. We Manage Them. You > > >>>>> Get 10% Monthly Commission! 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