Wow, are you the famous man who's name turned into a verb ? > Well the two are completely unrelated. J2EE has no user interface > guidelines, it is not specific to browsers (it does define servlets > which deal with http though, but that's as 'browsery' as it gets). So > the question of how well javascript and j2ee mix is akin to asking how > well buildings and leather chairs mix.
I guess you are right on this but what about JSP and MVC. Isn't it good practice not to mix the users interface with application logic ? > You can use javascript if you want, it depends entirely on your target > client. Is it an internal project where you can guarantee that everyone > will be using IE? Do you care about supporting the 8% of people in the > world who don't use IE? Yes I take care about myself ... and you know you're always lonesome at the top :-) > How about the three people who use Opera > (hehe)? I really don't care about Opera (hehehehe). Hani, I like your writings. Really refreshing ! > > On Thursday, June 26, 2003, at 03:13 PM, Lars Fischer wrote: > > >> Lars, just out of curiosity, what is driving the requirement for not > >> supporting the complete browser model (no javascript)? > > > > These are some of the reasons: > > > > - some IT departments do not allow JavaScript (Active Scripting) for > > security reasons > > - my applications should work with the most common browsers (e. g. I > > use > > Firebird > > with JavaScript turned off) and there are big differences between > > several > > browsers so > > it's not THE browser model > > - I don't want to mix user interfaces with application logic > > > > What do the others think about using JavaScript in J2EE applications ? > > Is it 'allowed' ? > > > > Cheers > > Lars > > > > > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Mike Cannon-Brookes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:33 PM > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Displaying a progress page > >> > >> Les, > >> > >> You could do it using DHTML, but I'm fairly sure that's not how > >> Expedia > >> do > >> it. It's a LOT more error prone to do that way :) > >> > >> FWIW we're investigating creating a generic 'long running task' system > >> for > >> JIRA - used for tasks like reindexing and importing/exporting data > >> which > >> take a long time. I think using a WW action this should be relatively > >> easy > >> to do. > >> > >> Mike > >> > >> On 26/6/03 10:13 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > >> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > >> penned the words: > >> > >>> I haven't actually done this yet (but am planning to) -- however, > >> can't > >>> you take care of this behavior with dhtml?? It seems like you could > >>> call a javascript function on submit that pulled a layer (actully > >>> css-pos) to the top. That layer would say "in progress" with a > >>> pretty > >>> animated gif or have some neat little javascript progress bar. The > >>> javascript would then submit the form. When it's done, the browser > >>> updates. This seems like it will work and is likely better than the > >>> server side solutions. Is there something I'm missing?? BTW, I > >>> think > >>> this is how expedia used to do it. > >>> > >>> LES > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: Mike Cannon-Brookes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 7:01 PM > >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Displaying a progress page > >>> > >>> Uhm, well why not just make your task runnable and run it in a new > >>> thread? > >>> :) Or you could use a util.Timer. > >>> > >>> Another (nicest IMHO) alternative is to make it a scheduled task and > >> use > >>> something like Quartz to kick it off. > >>> > >>> M > >>> > >>> On 26/6/03 6:05 AM, "Jason Carreira" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > >> penned > >>> the > >>> words: > >>> > >>>> Well, for us we queue a JMS message. I'm not sure of another way to > >>>> start an asynch process in the J2EE spec.... > >>>> > >>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>> From: Lars Fischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:42 PM > >>>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>> Subject: RE: [OS-webwork] Displaying a progress page > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Jason, > >>>>> > >>>>> thanks for the reply ! > >>>>> > >>>>> Any hint how you start the asynchronous process ? > >>>>> > >>>>> Lars > >>>>> > >>>>>> If you can start it up as an asynchronous process, you can use the > >>>>>> trick of having a progress page which checks some state, such as a > >>>>>> database or something in the session, and shows the progress bar > >>>>>> or > >>>>>> just a "processing..." and have it refresh itself using a > >>>>> meta-refresh > >>>>>> if things aren't done... If the process is done you can > >>>>> forward to a > >>>>>> final status page. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> We've used this technique pretty successfully. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Jason > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 8:31 AM > >>>>>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>>>>> Subject: [OS-webwork] Displaying a progress page > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Does anyone have a good idea how to display a temporary > >>>>>>> progress page in WW 1.x ? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I have a form where users can define paremeters for an import > >>>>>>> of data into the local database. After submitting the page > >>>>>>> the import method is started. This process may take a while > >>>>>>> so I want to show a general progress page saying that > >>>>>>> the import is running. After finishing the import I want to > >>>>>>> return to the original page where users can start an import. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Does anyone know how to do this ? The problem seems to be > >>>>>>> that WW is displaying the result-view AFTER the whole action > >>>>>>> has finished. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Thanks in advance > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Lars > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>>>> This SF.Net email is sponsored by: INetU > >>>>>>> Attention Web Developers & Consultants: Become An INetU > >>>>>>> Hosting Partner. Refer Dedicated Servers. We Manage Them. You > >>>>>>> Get 10% Monthly Commission! 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