Hello,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] 
> [mailto:[email protected]] On 
> Behalf Of Dražen Popovic
> Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 12:00 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Openvas-plugins] MS-RPC for GSoC
> 
> On Sat, 2010-02-27 at 16:21 +0530, Chandrashekhar B wrote:
> > Hello,
> >  
> Hi :)
> 
> > What others apart from DCERPC/SMB do you think are 
> inadequate? It'll 
> > be useful information to list them all somewhere.
>  
> Some of the protocols I dealt with: NFS and SUN-RPC, netbios 
> is scattered all over the plugin repository (maybe a netbt.inc?).
> 
> > Nice idea! I agree that the current facility available through 
> > smb_nt.inc is inadequate to write some of the SMB and RPC 
> checks. We 
> > had discussed this during last DevCon and the idea that 
> emerged was to 
> > integrate low level Samba functions into OpenVAS space.
> 
> I lack the experience to weight the pro and cons when it 
> comes to integration into NASL vs implementation in NASL. I 
> presume you don't want NASL to gain too much weight 
> unnecesary, on the other hand reinventing the wheel is not 
> always the best approach. My only ground in this matter is 
> the approach that other scripting languages take. 


The reason is documented here,
http://www.openvas.org/openvas-devcon2-minutes.html#external_libs


> 
> > If you think it is possible to write .inc based on Impacket 
> or MSRPC 
> > implementation of Nmap, it would be the way to go.
> 
> I am aware of the fact that NASL lacks certain capabilities, 
> such as OO paradigm, various high level data types. Sure that 
> this kind of extensions to NASL would mean a great deal to 
> NASL developers to make state of the art scripts. But lets do 
> the best with what we've got, and if the time comes for NASL 
> to evolve in such a way, c00l.
> Answer to your question...definitely!
> 
> To that point, I wish to state that there is a need for 
> introducing certain design guidelines, patterns for "inc" 
> development. The purpose of which is, of course, better code 
> quality and speed up of plugin production. Let me demonstrate 
> my thoughts with a brief example:
> 
> Consider the SMB protocol...First I would implement a 
> smb-packet.inc. In this inc you could find "build_" and 
> "dissect_" methods for easy SMB packet crafting (like in 
> Perl::Net). This "-packet.inc"s would represent a ground for 
> protocol operations implementation, also if making some 
> exploit on that particular level the creation of vuln packet 
> would be easy and nice. The next step is to implement the 
> actual protocol in a "smb.inc". As said before, this inc 
> would include("smb-packet.inc") and would heavily rely on 
> that particular inc. Here you could find protocol specific 
> methods which provide a adequate abstraction level for the 
> programmer/user.
> 
> This is just a rough outline. Also we should consider naming 
> conventions, which data types to use etc..
> 
> I've looked how other languages do it, and sure they have an 
> advantage (OOP), but I don't see why we can't make NASL even 
> better. :)
> 
> Your opinions?

Take a look at the discussion minutes and let us know what you think. Either
way (Implementing in NASL or external library), I suggest you prepare a CR
(http://www.openvas.org/openvas-crs.html) for the same and that's the path
for everyone to review the changes and take it for implementation.

Thanks,
Chandra.

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