On 11/08/20 12:42, Caleb James DeLisle wrote:
On 11/08/2020 02:30, Mauro Mozzarelli wrote:
On 10/08/2020 10:08, Adrian Schmutzler wrote:
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Subject: Re: Policy on BUILD_PATENTED
On 09/08/2020 12:44, Bjørn Mork wrote:
Mauro Mozzarelli <[email protected]> writes:
On 09/08/2020 03:35, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
I believe OpenWrt should not even *consider* placing its umbrella
organization(s) -- which are based on the U.S. -- in legal risk
without at least contacting them first and getting their approval.
Has anyone asked SPI about it yet?
Who/What are these "umbrella" organizations? What is their
relationship with OpenWrt?
This is answered by the FAQ:
https://openwrt.org/faq/general
And what is the "legal risk"?
I guess that's the question you should ask the SPI.
This is not a technical or a political discussion. It's about not
putting your friends at unnecessary risk, even if they happen to live
under some regime you don't like or respect.
Bjørn
Although I respect other's opinions and rules, I do not think it is
right to limit
everyone's freedom, just to appease some.
That's why we allow you to use BUILD_PATENTED and not just remove
that stuff entirely.
If there is a minority who is unable to use parts of this software,
we can make
it easy for that minority to be able to strip those software
components (or
they can propose and implement changes that achieve that
themselves), but
in no way limit or prevent everyone from making use of it.
But still, OpenWrt as a project/organization in embedded in an
environment it has to care about.
And that of course includes caring about the interests of important
stakeholders (or at least ask them about those), and not make our
decisions based on how we would like the world to be.
I think Bjørn put that in a nutshell nicely.
Best
Adrian
Citizens of the European Union are major contributors to OpenWrt and
other Open Source projects, The European Union, after several years
of debate. listened to its citizens, not corporations, and has put
into law that freedom from software patents that allows us all to
contribute to the community without fear of litigation nor
constraints imposed from monopolistic organizations.
The EU and its citizens are too important stakeholders. EU law, and
EU citizens' will must too be respected.
I'm not a contributor or serious user so take my words with as much
salt as you please, but I think it is worth noting that decisions like
this play a big part in establishing what is considered normal.
The unlicensed use of cryptography is strictly illegal in countries
such as Iran and Cuba, but I know of no FOSS project which even
considers forgoing cryptography in order to comply with such rules.
Afaik the main problem is just the USA and its litigation-friendly legal
system that could allow someone to hurt OpenWrt infrastructure in USA
(like the SPI as others mentioned).
OpenWrt has no infrastructure in Cuba or Iran or even China so if we are
violating their regulations there is nothing they can do about it.
-Alberto
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