On Sat, 16 May 2009, Brian J. Murrell wrote:

> On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 04:43 -0400, Robert P. J. Day wrote:
> > you can never get a simple answer to a simple question,
> > that question being:
> >
> >   "which routers work with openwrt"?
>
> Indeed, I tend to agree.

  and, as i've already mentioned, the most obvious flaw in getting
that info out there is that, at the main http://openwrt.org page, the
link labelled "Supported Devices" simply leaves you at the main page.
that's a pretty major flaw.  indeed, it's kind of unforgivable since
it's the first thing new users are going to look for, and it takes
them nowhere.  not good.

> > while there is copious information at openwrt.org and in sub-pages
> > and in the wiki, there is *nothing* that will help a beginner who
> > wants to get started with openwrt and would simply like to know
> > what router to buy that will ***work***.
>
> Yes.  It seems the entire wiki is geared around the idea of "OK.
> so I have this router... how well does it work with OpenWRT and what
> do I need to do to/with it?".
>
> It completely fails to address the other class of potential OpenWRT
> user, as Robert points out: "OK.  So I have cash and am going to buy
> a router.  But I don't have enough money to also buy a bottle of
> asprin or bourbon, so which router should I buy?".

  or, put more simply, all the info there approaches the issue from
the wrong direction.  it's not, "i have a router, how can i put
openwrt on it?"  rather, it should be, "i want to run openwrt, what
router should i buy?"

> >   * runs the latest 2.6 version of kamikaze (perhaps needing to wait
> >     for the imminent 8.09.1)
> >   * wireless works out of the box, no screwing around
> >   * ideally has at least one 2.0 USB port, preferably two
>
> Perhaps that simply doesn't exist.  The closest I know of, and which
> I use personally is the ASUS wl500gp.  It does have broadcom
> wireless, but it's a mini-PCI card so replaceable with something
> that does work.

  i know.  amusingly, that's only true with the v1.  the v2
regresses(?) back to a built-in wireless chipset.  some days, you just
can't win.

> I didn't actually replace my wireless card as buying another
> wireless router and simply making it a wired/wireless bridge
> (running Tomato) was cheaper[1].  I do all my Openwrt stuff on the
> ASUS as my firewall without wireless.

  heh, that's funny -- i have the wl500gp also running openwrt without
wireless.  great minds think alike.  or is it fools seldom differ?  i
always get those two confused.

> > does such a thing exist?
>
> NTMK.

  which is too bad, since i think that's openwrt's major drawback.
it's clearly excellent software, supported by clever people.  but the
marketing falls flat.  it doesn't matter how good your product is --
if you can't walk new users through how to start using it, it's in
trouble.

rday
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