On 2/8/18 5:01 AM, Mirja Kuehlewind (IETF) wrote: > Without any judgement, this is an informational document, so it does > not necessarily need to have IETF consensus for publication.
Generally I'm in favor of being pretty relaxed about informational documents that describe a real thing in the world, but for better or worse this document is taking the form of a position statement and I think needs to reflect that position more accurately. The use of the word "consensus" here set my teeth on edge a bit as we've never had a consensus call specifically on what EKR is asserting as consensus. That said, as Randy points out we've got consensus on a few other documents about encryption and privacy and I do think that EKR is correct about the overall sense of the IETF. Consensus-is-not-voting but it's my very strong impression that the position being argued in this draft is a minority viewpoint and I don't think it should be published as-is. Melinda
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