Dear Reshad,

I am refering to the IOAM data fields described in 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc9197#section-4. So that those entities 
can be decomposed on the network node and not at the data collection. Depending 
on IPFIX configuration, some of the dimensions will be key fields, some of them 
not. Depending on keying, IPFIX will aggregate the data on the network node 
before exporting to the data collection. That increases scalability of the 
solution. See 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-gfz-opsawg-ipfix-alt-mark as 
example.

Best wishes
Thomas

From: Reshad Rahman <res...@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] draft-spiegel-ippm-ioam-rawexport


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Hi Thomas,

By "IOAM dimension fields", are you referring to fields such as ingress/egress 
intf id etc in IOAM data? And you are requesting for these fields to be 
included to facilitate aggregation by another entity (e.g the aggregating 
mediator in RFC7015)? i.e you are not requesting for the IOAM node in this 
document (i.e. the exporter) to export aggregated data?

If I understood correctly, then I agree.

Regards,
Reshad.

On Monday, March 18, 2024, 08:42:41 PM EDT, 
thomas.g...@swisscom.com<mailto:thomas.g...@swisscom.com> 
<thomas.g...@swisscom.com<mailto:thomas.g...@swisscom.com>> wrote:



Dear Justin, Dear OPSAWG and IPPM working groups



Thanks a lot for the presentation at IPPM. I believe that this work needs 
further refinement by defining also IPFIX entities for IOAM which allow a 
decomposition of each IOAM dimension fields, thus enabling IPFIX Flow 
Aggregation as described in RFC 7015 which is a requirement to scale out for 
IOAM DEX and Trace Option Type. I believe this should be performed after the 
working group adoption and me should move forward quickly since IOAM is now 
getting implemented by vendors and applied by operators.



While shepherding IPFIX at OPSAWG, I noticed that most discussions where around 
choosing the right data type and aligning with the IPFIX registry. Not so much 
about exposing the right dimensions from the data plane.



draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-on-path-telemetry is already adopted and well 
progressed at OPSAWG. I suggest that draft-spiegel-ippm-ioam-rawexport is being 
adopted together with draft-gfz-opsawg-ipfix-alt-mark. With that we are 
covering both Hybrid Type options developed at IPPM.



In order to pool the IPFIX entity definitions, I believe OPSAWG would be the 
best place to move with draft-spiegel-ippm-ioam-rawexport forward.



I would appreciate feedback from IPPM and OPSAWG wherever they share my opinion 
or not.



Best wishes

Thomas


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