Lisa, There is only so much you can control via a model, since it remains a process away from the DB, and cannot be enforced via privileges, etc. So, we are always in the hands of Dom Phoc (and their siblings), who can do "stuff" even in the production database with SQLPLus/TOAD/... Under this schenario, do you sleep well at night?
So, we said lets work with our Dom Phoc's. On production databases, we will STRIP them off of the Oracle database passwords. No password, no change. ENFORCED! Now, I can sleep well at night. How? Not via models. Via a solution involving the following, and it seems to be working for us well: ActiveDesigner/ActiveChangeManager/ActiveCompare/A+ White Paper: http://www.iraje.com/docs/ActiveSecureDesigner.htm Take charge of the "Dom Phocs" in your org! Keith To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 16:06:00 -0500 Well, for one thing, if your developer, Dom Phoc, starts changing crap in your database (as has happened to me in the past) a compare to the dev model would be great because my development changes would be in the model, not in the test or production databases. In that specific case I had to TRUST him (what? trust him after what he just did?) to change everything back, or restore from a backup, which would have been very time consuming. I was one large ball of raging hormones that day and I took it all out on him. We don't work on the same projects anymore. Lisa Koivu Oracle Database Administrator Fairfield Resorts, Inc. 5259 Coconut Creek Parkway Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA 33063 > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith Peterson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 5:50 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: ERD generation tool - Active Comparisons > > Am I speaking to the wind .... > > For Compares, why would you compare the MODEL with the > DATABASE...like going from US to London via Tokyo... > ... and you get to pay more, like... you pay not for > distance, but for "time in the air"... If a tool takes > longer to do something, makes more mistakes, is bumpy > and complex... you get to pay more. > > For compares, someone tell me what beats > ActiveCompare: > http://www.iraje.com/compare-diff.htm > > http://www.iraje.com/ActiveCompare_viewlet.html > > > ...and I will switch my tool. > > Keith __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Keith Peterson INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
