Thanks Keith, I'll check it out. Lisa Koivu Oracle Database Baby Oven Fairfield Resorts, Inc. 5259 Coconut Creek Parkway Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA 33063
> -----Original Message----- > From: Keith Peterson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 1:55 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: ERD generation tool - Active SCM > > Lisa, > There is only so much you can control via a model, > since it remains a process away from the DB, and > cannot be enforced via privileges, etc. So, we are > always in the hands of Dom Phoc (and their siblings), > who can do "stuff" even in the production database > with SQLPLus/TOAD/... Under this schenario, do you > sleep well at night? > > So, we said lets work with our Dom Phoc's. On > production databases, we will STRIP them off of the > Oracle database passwords. No password, no change. > ENFORCED! Now, I can sleep well at night. > > How? Not via models. Via a solution involving the > following, and it seems to be working for us well: > ActiveDesigner/ActiveChangeManager/ActiveCompare/A+ > White Paper: > http://www.iraje.com/docs/ActiveSecureDesigner.htm > > Take charge of the "Dom Phocs" in your org! > > Keith > > > > > > > To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 16:06:00 -0500 > > > > > > Well, for one thing, if your developer, Dom Phoc, > starts changing crap > in > your database (as has happened to me in the past) a > compare to the dev > model > would be great because my development changes would be > in the model, > not in > the test or production databases. In that specific > case I had to TRUST > him > (what? trust him after what he just did?) to change > everything back, > or > restore from a backup, which would have been very time > consuming. > > I was one large ball of raging hormones that day and I > took it all out > on > him. We don't work on the same projects anymore. > > Lisa Koivu > Oracle Database Administrator > Fairfield Resorts, Inc. > 5259 Coconut Creek Parkway > Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA 33063 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Keith Peterson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 5:50 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > Subject: RE: ERD generation tool - Active > Comparisons > > > > Am I speaking to the wind .... > > > > For Compares, why would you compare the MODEL with > the > > DATABASE...like going from US to London via Tokyo... > > ... and you get to pay more, like... you pay not for > > distance, but for "time in the air"... If a tool > takes > > longer to do something, makes more mistakes, is > bumpy > > and complex... you get to pay more. > > > > For compares, someone tell me what beats > > ActiveCompare: > > http://www.iraje.com/compare-diff.htm > > > > http://www.iraje.com/ActiveCompare_viewlet.html > > > > > > ...and I will switch my tool. > > > > Keith > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness > http://health.yahoo.com > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Keith Peterson > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Koivu, Lisa INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
