well, if so, I'll finally get to see you present and won't have to walk
out in the middle 


--- "Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Right now, I think Susan has me from 1-2, right after
> lunch, but I'm not sure. The OOUG web site is a 
> little sparse on details.
> 
> 
> 
> ----
> Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> We have enough youth.
> How about a fountain of intelligence?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 4:50 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> But Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatt... you were always scheduled at either the
> same
> time *I* was presenting (trust me, I'd rather have gone to yours, I
> get
> stage fright) or when at LEAST 2 other presentations I wanted to see
> equally as much were there.
> 
> Um, what time are you presenting at OOUG? My flight home is at 5, I
> have to leave around 2:30 or so....
> 
> 
> 
> --- "Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > But Rachel, you never came to any of my 
> > presentations!!!!!  (in my best whiney voice)
> > 
> > At least you'll get to see me present in July at OOUG.
> > 
> > ----
> > Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > We have enough youth.
> > How about a fountain of intelligence?
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 3:56 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > 
> > 
> > that's 'cause you present well and have knowledge
> > 
> > or.. to quote one of my favorite shows:
> > 
> > "he has much knowledge. we must build an altar and worship him"
> > 
> > 
> > :)
> > 
> > 
> > --- "Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > Actually, I had to miss this years (even though I was orginally
> > > schedule
> > > to give two presentations)  due to a medical situation.  I gave
> > four
> > > the
> > > year
> > > before that.  
> > >  
> > > 
> > > ----
> > > Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > We have enough youth.
> > > How about a fountain of intelligence? 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 1:09 PM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > OK.  As the DBA Focus Area Manager for the IOUG, we do our best
> to
> > > weed out
> > > the fluff.  If you were at IOUG this year, you should have
> noticed
> > a
> > > significant reduction in the marketing fluff and more technical
> > > content.
> > > Yes, some showmanship is necessary when giving a presentation,
> but
> > > the
> > > content has to be there.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Many people on this forum have submitted presentations to my
> track
> > > and then
> > > complained that they were not accepted.  Let me give you some
> > > concrete
> > > numbers.  This year, we received over 400 abstracts for the DBA
> > track
> > > alone
> > > and accepted only 80.  If one slips through the cracks, it won't
> a
> > > second
> > > time.  Believe me when I say that 2002 was the best
> > content-organized
> > > IOUG.
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Further comments?  Submit an abstract for 2003 and find out!!!
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Thank You
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Stephen P. Karniotis
> > > 
> > > Product Architect
> > > 
> > > Compuware Corporation
> > > 
> > > Direct:                   (248) 865-4350
> > > 
> > > Mobile:                  (248) 408-2918
> > > 
> > > Email:                      [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 
> > > Web:                        www.compuware.com
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:39 PM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > unfortunately, I've seen this to be true at 
> > > many conferences, including the IOUG 
> > > and SEOUC. 
> > > 
> > > ---- 
> > > Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > "Doing linear scans over an associative array is like 
> > > trying to club someone to death with a loaded Uzi." 
> > >     - Larry Wall (creator of Perl) 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message----- 
> > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 11:54 AM 
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > I'll bet a dynamic animated speaker chockful of amusing anecdotes
> > > whose
> > > presentation is technically weak scores better than a plodding
> > > monotonous
> > > one with better information to convey :)  Especialy if the
> audience
> > > is
> > > composed of nascent DBA's :)
> > > 
> > > Ian MacGregor 
> > > Stanford Linear Accelerator Center 
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message----- 
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 5:09 PM 
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > one being a marketing venue, the other being a place where you
> can 
> > > learn from ohers experiences. 
> > > 
> > > and to clarify further, if you are a lousy presenter, giving bad 
> > > information, you get horrible scores and, since the selection
> > process
> > > 
> > > is not blind, don't get asked back to present again. 
> > > 
> > > So having a list of many presentations, at various conferences,
> can
> > > be 
> > > an indicator of knowledge. 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > --- "Karniotis, Stephen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > > > Let me clarify something.  It was at Oracle Open World, not
> > IOUG-A 
> > > > Live 
> > > > where these presentations were made.  Please do not confuse the
> > > two!! 
> 
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