that's 'cause you present well and have knowledge or.. to quote one of my favorite shows:
"he has much knowledge. we must build an altar and worship him" :) --- "Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, I had to miss this years (even though I was orginally > schedule > to give two presentations) due to a medical situation. I gave four > the > year > before that. > > > ---- > Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > We have enough youth. > How about a fountain of intelligence? > > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 1:09 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > OK. As the DBA Focus Area Manager for the IOUG, we do our best to > weed out > the fluff. If you were at IOUG this year, you should have noticed a > significant reduction in the marketing fluff and more technical > content. > Yes, some showmanship is necessary when giving a presentation, but > the > content has to be there. > > > > Many people on this forum have submitted presentations to my track > and then > complained that they were not accepted. Let me give you some > concrete > numbers. This year, we received over 400 abstracts for the DBA track > alone > and accepted only 80. If one slips through the cracks, it won't a > second > time. Believe me when I say that 2002 was the best content-organized > IOUG. > > > > > Further comments? Submit an abstract for 2003 and find out!!! > > > > Thank You > > > > Stephen P. Karniotis > > Product Architect > > Compuware Corporation > > Direct: (248) 865-4350 > > Mobile: (248) 408-2918 > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Web: www.compuware.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:39 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > unfortunately, I've seen this to be true at > many conferences, including the IOUG > and SEOUC. > > ---- > Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "Doing linear scans over an associative array is like > trying to club someone to death with a loaded Uzi." > - Larry Wall (creator of Perl) > > -----Original Message----- > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 11:54 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > I'll bet a dynamic animated speaker chockful of amusing anecdotes > whose > presentation is technically weak scores better than a plodding > monotonous > one with better information to convey :) Especialy if the audience > is > composed of nascent DBA's :) > > Ian MacGregor > Stanford Linear Accelerator Center > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 5:09 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > one being a marketing venue, the other being a place where you can > learn from ohers experiences. > > and to clarify further, if you are a lousy presenter, giving bad > information, you get horrible scores and, since the selection process > > is not blind, don't get asked back to present again. > > So having a list of many presentations, at various conferences, can > be > an indicator of knowledge. > > > > --- "Karniotis, Stephen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Let me clarify something. It was at Oracle Open World, not IOUG-A > > Live > > where these presentations were made. Please do not confuse the > two!! > > > > Thank You > > > > Stephen P. Karniotis > > Product Architect > > Compuware Corporation > > Direct: (248) 865-4350 > > Mobile: (248) 408-2918 > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Web: www.compuware.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 5:41 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > Subject: RE: the ora certified masters cert, yet again > > > > A tip o' the hat to all authors and presenters. However writing a > > book > > makes no one an expert on anything. There are Oracle books > > containing > > fabulous stories of what happens when a tablespace is put in backup > > > mode, > > and while quite entertaining they do not further a correct > > understanding of > > Oracle. Authors take the time to put what they believe to be true > on > > paper. > > It's often what they have been told, not what they have learned on > > their > > own. Richard Niemiec's sp? tuning books have been trashed recently > > > because > > they tout buffer hit ratios; however there was a consensus in the > > Oracle > > community that these were important. It took Cary Millsap's paper > > and a new > > tuning paradigm introduced by Gaja Vaidyanatha, Kirtikumar > Deshpande, > > and > > John Kostelac Jr. to direct us to something more useful. > Personally, > > I was > > using wait events before Gaja's book, but I was also trying to keep > > > the hit > > ratio's high as a part of the "consensus". If I had written a book > > > before > > seeing Cary's paper! > > ! > > , it > > would have touted hit ratios. I don't believe "Oracle 101 > > Performance > > Tuning" is a perfect book; it doesn't properly address data > > collection > > needs. > > > > Why would authorship and presentations be worth more than an OCP? > > The OCP > > says that you have achieved a standard. One can debate whether > that > > standard has any meaning. There is no standard at all for > > authors/presenters. It does seem however that many OCP holders > know > > far > > less than their certificate would indicate, and some authors are > more > > expert > > than their books convey. A good author of Oracle tomes and > > presentations > > needs a clearer understanding of the subject matter than an OCP. > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? 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