Same here. I'll be buying it... <just in case the previous email was taken as actual begging instead of humor>
Scott Shafer San Antonio, TX 210-581-6217 > -----Original Message----- > From: Rachel Carmichael [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 2:46 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: runInstaller > > Jared, > > As an author, I know the value of having people actually BUY the book > :) > > I have no problem buying a copy -- you just have to PROMISE to sign it! > > Hm, I guess this means you're going to have to show up at IOUG 2003 <G> > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Me and my big mouth. > > > > I should have added that most of these are spoken for > > by folks that did actual work in helping us out. :) > > > > I'll see what I can do. :) > > > > Jared > > > > > > > > > > > > Rachel Carmichael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 07/10/2002 12:09 PM > > Please respond to ORACLE-L > > > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > cc: > > Subject: RE: runInstaller > > > > > > gee if that's all it takes, how about > > > > This book is the best Oracle and Perl book ever written. Why, even a > > total Perl neophyte like me can understand and immediately use > > everything in the book, even before reading it. > > > > > > :) > > > > > > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > hoping for that free book from Jared.. > > > > > > Well, I get 20 of them. > > > > > > How's that review coming. :) > > > > > > Jared > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Grabowy, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > 07/10/2002 11:10 AM > > > Please respond to ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > cc: > > > Subject: RE: runInstaller > > > > > > > > > 1) Production shop, obviously your not installing Oracle that much. > > > > > But a > > > development shop is regularly installing Oracle. It would seem > > that > > > people > > > with a "command line" background appreciate the power, flexibility, > > > speed, > > > and therefore crave a command line installer. While people with a > > > "GUI" > > > background appreciate the comfort of GUI. Click your radio > > buttons, > > > click > > > Next. Click Help if your stuck, etc. > > > > > > 2/3) Yes, Java is everywhere for a reason. But real cross platform > > > development....Perl....(hoping for that free book from > > Jared..(grin)) > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 12:24 PM > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > All this ranting is nice but consider the following: > > > > > > 1) You do not install oracle on a server so much. > > > In fact, in our shop this is done by the technical > > > people, not the DBA. The DBA got the machine with > > > oracle already installed and just build the database. > > > > > > 2) When you have to do cross platform development > > > Java is the tool to save on resources. > > > > > > 3) Any machine that's need to run a production database > > > should be strong enough to run Java ok. > > > > > > Yechiel Adar (not an oracle employee) > > > Mehish > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 5:08 PM > > > > > > > > > > Me thinks this was done to check off some boxes to indicate that > > > Oracle > > > is > > > > "easy" to install and maintain (OEM). These are boxes that SQL > > > Server > > > had > > > > checked off (I guess) for a long time, and Oracle didn't. And > > > Oracle > > > can > > > > check the Java box a few dozen times now. "Oracle is now easier > > > for > > > your > > > > (in)experienced IT shop to setup and maintain.", Oracle sales guy > > > rants > > > and > > > > raves. "And you don't need to pay for those over-priced > > > experienced > > > DBAs > > > > anymore!!!", he exclaims. CIOs eyes glaze over... > > > > > > > > I am getting tired of W2K, and yearn to get back to Solaris....or > > > any > > > *NIX. > > > > Sigh. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 6:24 PM > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh the system does. That's a given. There is no need to java-fy > > > > everything. There was a perfectly good working installer. Not > > > everyone > > > > wants to jump through the hoops of setting up xservers and > > watching > > > all > > > your > > > > RAM consumed by the JRE. > > > > > > > > Perl and Perl TK are multi-platform, small footprint, etc. OEM > > 1.6 > > > > > > still > > > > had mostly Tcl/TK pieces and parts and ran fast and reliably. > > Not > > > so > > > for > > > > OEM 2.x. Give me a command line back for installs. That's not > > too > > > much > > > to > > > > ask, right? > > > > > > > > Scott Shafer > > > > San Antonio, TX > > > > 210-581-6217 > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Ray Stell [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 4:48 PM > > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > Subject: Re: runInstaller > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You might look at silent mode install, Note:73510.1 > > > > > > > > > > I have found that on really hot machines oui is a screamer. It > > > could > > > be > > > > > your system needs a facelift. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 09, 2002 at 12:47:19PM -0800, > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > What I wouldn't give for "./orainst /c" right now. > > > > > > > > > > > > <RANT> > > > > > > > > > > > > Where is the productivity and ease of use of the #$%^#@ OUI > > > when it > > > > > takes > > > > > > hours and hours just to load up all the java crap! Piece of > > > garbage > > > is > > > > > > enough to make me want to go back to 7.3.4 - and shoot the > > > idiot who > > > > > thought > > > > > > up java... > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Sign up for SBC Yahoo! 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