Dennis,

    Actually migrating to StarOffice is pretty simple.  We would have done so a
year ago, but the mail package we're using would not budge.  Damn Lotus.

Dick Goulet

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Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:       9/26/2002 12:37 PM

Yeah, I saw that one and thought "how hard can that be?". Just raise license
fees again. What are corporations going to do? Switch to StarOffice? Do that
and all the users will insist that they much have pure MS.
 



Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 1:57 PM
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Speaking of R&D, what about the eWeek article about how M$ is going to pump
$3,000,000,000.00 into MS Office? They want to achieve $20,000,000,000.00
per year in revenue on MSOffice alone. Seems like they want to dominate the
desktop with more that just the O/S and browser. Can't anyone slay this
beast?
 
It's an evil world in which we live...
 

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Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 10:54 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


I view a R&D project not as "adding value to the business", but training for
myself. Everytime I have participated on an R&D project I have learned a
significant amount and have gained invaluable experience!
 
If you go in expecting to throw away all of your "work", you will be
frustrated. If you go in expecting to learn about a technology or product in
a "real world" setting, then you'll come away enriched by the experience!

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 11:54 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


you obviously have not wasted enough time with tasks like this.  they really
suck.  
you end up spinning your wheels for a week, all for nothing.  your report
ends up on somebody's shelf someplace - never read.  and 6 months later,
they ask the same questions.
 
the biggest task that a body needs to learn is how to duck these research
projects.
 
unless you *really* like doing them.
 

Tom Mercadante 
Oracle Certified Professional 

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 11:04 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Well,
regardless of MS tactics, the last paragraph reads: "Therefore, I support
investigating SQL server, Biz Talk, and dot Net, but I emphasize the word
INVESTIGATING. "
 
What is better  than R&D projects? At the end one wins no matter what.
Knowing more does not hurt, does it?
 
inka
 
 
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Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 10:23 AM
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Exactly.
 
In other words, thank the MS-sales-dweeb for his time, and tell him "bye-bye
now", "no-more-sales-for-you".
 
Tom Mercadante 
Oracle Certified Professional 

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 9:43 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


What exactly is your problem?
 
Lets say that you are a factory that sells paper. 
You need to buy a computer system.
One supplier also sell printers and the other advocate paperless office.
All things being equal, which one will you give your business to??
 
Yechiel Adar
Mehish

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Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 1:13 AM


This came to our DBA team today.    I'd appreciate your thoughts.   I'm not
a business 
guy, just a plain old Apps DBA, but this really pisses me off.   Is it
common practice 
by MS? 

        It is important from an Architecture point of view that we
understand all the various approaches to "web services" (also known as "grid
computing" -- see my recent report).  Microsoft's dot Net initiative is
their approach to this grand overarching software strategy. 

        There is a second reason why we might be interested specifically in
dot Net.   Subsidiary XYZ earns $xyz a year for us from 

        Microsoft by [performing certain services], etc.  Microsoft has told
our management that one of their criteria for evaluating their vendors will
be how good of a MS customer is the potential vendor.  Specifically, has the
vendor  bought in to the dot Net strategy.  Now we aren't going to make our
global enterprise solutions strategy decisions based upon that point alone,
but it's not something we are going to ignore either.

        Therefore, I support investigating SQL server, Biz Talk, and dot
Net, but I emphasize the word INVESTIGATING. 


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