Rachel, the "girls are not called upon" nonsense is debunked by the graduation rate of girls vs. boys in high school, and the number of women earning degrees. It is not unusual to have an extroverted lad dominating a class room; however when at the end the female members of the class will on average have better marks and a better understanding of the subject matter than the male members. It is not unusual in math to have the very top performers to be male, but again on average the girls do better than the boys.
How should schools encourage girls to consider science or math, doesn't that come from within? Is it the guidance counselors? I dare say they have rained ruin on as many boys as girls. Are the teachers saying to the girls with a keen interest in math, "You'd be better off learning to iron clothes than being able to perform LaPlace transforms? I would guess there are numerous outside factors which discourage women. One is indeed that the fields are often male-dominated. Cracking a homogenous group can be very difficult indeed even if that group is not hostile to the "infiltration". Another is doing something different than your peers. I expect you'll be pleased to know that one of our assistant directors is a woman. She leads our Research Division. A position which includes the responsibility of deciding what science is performed here. Our computing and networking efforts also fall under her purview. I also see many daughters following in their fathers' footsteps. They are assuming the same positions that their fathers held twenty some years ago. From this group and the other women scientists, will come future directors and future Nobel Laureates. It takes time but the progress is steady. Ian MacGregor -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 5:39 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I think that within the population of women in IT, the number of female Oracle DBAs is increasing. However, in general, the number of women entering IT is decreasing. That is, the number of women who are encouraged to become DBAs or developers or network admins or sys admins is decreasing. I've noticed (I have a friend with a 13 year old son and a 16 year old daughter) that the schools are not encouraging girls to go into science or math. There have been studies done that show that teachers in those fields tend to call on the girls in the class less and spend less time helping them understand the subjects. My opinion only Rachel --- DENNIS WILLIAMS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Recently this list had a discussion of female Oracle DBAs. The > consensus was that the numbers were increasing, which I view as a good > thing. Here is an > article with industry statistics saying that the number of women in > IT is > decreasing. > http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/career/article.php/1564501 > Any theories? > > Dennis Williams > DBA, 40%OCP > Lifetouch, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the > name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send > the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: MacGregor, Ian A. INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
