Robin,
Yes, there is already declining enrollment in Girl Scouts in general and in
the older age ranges as the kids get into Middle School or Junior High.
The Girl Scouts organization is very sensitive to having activities be
driven by what the girls want to do, not just what the leaders think is
"good" for them. If it stops being fun, they stop coming. However, I
find it frustrating to have the majority always rule and do occassionally
try to sprinkle in something for the minority. Girl Scouts also emphasize
that there should be something of interest for everyone, even if you don't
always get to do what you want to do.
Cherie
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I'd venture a guess that if it were a requirement there would be fewer girl
scouts. Girls join girl scouts to have fun, and I think that they would
perceive any requirement as an impediment to their fun, especially
something
"dorky".
I agree that it is an image thing. We need some cool female scientists in
the spotlight, don't we?
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Dorky rules :)
It's sad that there isn't a requirement for the science/math activities
in the Girl Scouts. The problem is that society in general doesn't show
images of science as being "cool" and definitely doesn't show images of
women as scientists. Or at least, not enough images.
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> Dennis,
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> I think that the article is correct that girls and teens are
> sensitive to
> the "geek stigma factor". Even in our 10-year-old Girl Scout
> troop, the
> girls are already concerned about their images and not being too
> "dorky".
> We have many more girls vote for activities involving animals and
> crafts
> than activities centered on math and science. The votes are usually
> about
> 8 to 1 with only one or two girls voting to do the math or science
> activities. Pretty sad, especially considering that the Girl Scouts
> organization tries really hard to push those technical and
> math/science
> programs and make them interesting and fun.
>
> The 25% number cited in the article for women in the IT sector seems
> pretty
> close to the number that we have show up at our local Oracle User's
> Group
> meeting. I think that the participation by women in our user's
> group has
> increased steadily in the last 10 years.
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> Perhaps more women are drawn to database work than IT in general as
> it
> tends to be more administrative than say, programming.
>
> I'd also have to say that in many cases, being an Oracle DBA can be
> pretty
> grueling for those with families and for women with families in
> particular.
>
> Cherie Machler
> Oracle DBA
> Gelco Information Network
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> Recently this list had a discussion of female Oracle DBAs. The
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> article with industry statistics saying that the number of women in
> IT is
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