Title: RE: Orawomen
I will agree to some extent.  But I have TRIED to get my daughter on the computers, into math and science, interested in anything technology... she tells me that Computers are geeky (she's 8).  She is my militant little feminist and into sports and precision jump rope... I try to explain that I work with computers.  The geeky logic doesn't always stick.
 

April Wells
Oracle DBA
Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds -- Albert Einstein

-----Original Message-----
From: Farnsworth, Dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 9:20 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: Orawomen

I have encouraged and pushed science on my daughter and son.  My daughter started college this year and wants to go into the biological sciences.  I periodically have been a guest teacher at our local schools to teach some physics and am amazed at the lack of interest in general by the females.  And knowing many of the families of these girls I would attribute this to the parents.
 
My $.02
 
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Koivu, Lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 8:34 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: Orawomen

Well, it's been a while since I was in college (1999) but I always felt singled out in a class.  Some teachers, that were as old as the hills, truly felt that women should not be in science and did not hesitate to say so.  Other teachers could not keep their eyes off my legs - I had to leave work and go directly to school for years. Never mind complaining, the department didn't care. There was only one woman professor, but she taught advanced AI.  I never got to take any of her classes.  I never saw a female physics or math professor at the university.

I had one (male) algebra teacher tell me that "maybe you just shouldn't study math."  However it was a female teacher at a community college that finally got me through 3 quarters calculus.  To this day I credit her with making me feel that I was capable of understanding higher math and pushing me and the whole class to do so.

I didn't finish my bachelor's, I didn't need to and I didn't need the stress.  But I can see how the declining IT market (no 22-year-old CIOs anymore) paired with this kind of treatment in school would push a detail-oriented young woman to study something else.

Personally I wish I would have become a nurse.

Just my 2 cents, for whatever it's worth.

Lisa Koivu
Oracle No-degree Administrator
Fairfield Resorts, Inc.
5259 Coconut Creek Parkway
Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA  33063



-----Original Message-----
From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 6:11 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: Orawomen


Recently this list had a discussion of female Oracle DBAs. The consensus was
that the numbers were increasing, which I view as a good thing. Here is an
article with industry statistics saying that the number of women in IT is
decreasing. http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/career/article.php/1564501
Any theories?

Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP
Lifetouch, Inc.
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