The IOUG cannot live without Oracle's support, but Oracle can survive without the 
IOUG.  IOUG may cause the rare stink, but it always does as Oracle instructs.  

Michael Corey,  erstwhile IOUG president, was going to force Oracle to change the date 
of its first OOW in the U.S. as it was scheduled at the same time as the IOUW.  The 
latter had been scheduled for well over a year.  The groundwork had not even started 
for OOW, but guess which one was moved.

Teradata would not be the first product banned.  Way back in olden-times the maker of 
SQR were banned, but I cannot remember why.  

The idea of the exhibit hall is for vendors to provide information on  their products 
in respect to Oracle.  Now  a company  wants to use the forum to convince people to 
stop using Oracle, or so Oracle apparently dreads.  But, who goes to the conferences?  
Mainly DBA's and developers who have such a stake in Oracle that even if Teradata did 
everything that Oracle did, made breakfast, and washed the dishes, they would not 
recommend it.  Oracle is risking bad public relations over nothing.


Ian MacGregor
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
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I'm sorry but I thought that IOUG was independant from Oracle? If Larry is afraid of a 
little competition then perhaps he should get out of the market. If not then he should 
battle it out in every venue possible and show why Oracle is better. 

If Rich and the guys do this they will be setting a dangerous precedant.

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DBA's

Check the article's comment on Oracle trying to ban Teradata from IOUG

Teradata Steals Oracle's Data Mart Users ...

Teradata pushes consolidation and woos away Oracle customers. But Oracle strikes back. 
Sort of. Will bean counters surf the Web with Excel? Will Steve Ballmer and Larry 
Ellison become immortal?

http://computerworld.com/newsletter/0%2C4902%2C78375%2C0.html?nlid=DM 



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