It would be great to find out what Oracle DOES do for IOUG... and other
OUGs for that matter. I can't get them to even tell people about TSOUG...
let alone actually GIVE us anything (meeting room, or anything else). Most
of the time I can't get OUR sales rep to get back to me to tell me if he is
still telling his contacts in the area that we even exist!
April Wells
Oracle DBA
Great spirits have always encountered violent
opposition from mediocre minds -- Albert Einstein
-----Original Message-----Well said. It becomes a problem when TUSC aka IOUG starts censoring papers and vendors for OW and IOUG-A on the grounds that it doesn't conform with the slick TUSC messages (right or wrong as they were).
From: Mogens N�rgaard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 10:00 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: Re: Teradata baned from IOUG???
Just out of curiosity: What is it that Oracle provides that IOUG can't live without? In Denmark (which is about the size of Ada, Oklahoma :) ) we are grateful for being able to borrow a meeting room at the Oracle building for our events, but we could just as easily get a room somewhere else. That's about it. So we get by fine.
Mogens
Peter Barnett wrote:
It seems to me that IOUG has become a wholly owned subsidiary of TUSC. TUSC in turn has an incestuous relationship with Oracle. All very cozy. No real complaint about the arrangements. Someone has to step up to the plate if IOUG is going to continue to be a viable organization and in this economic climate few can afford to do it. Should IOUG be able to survive without Oracle? Probably. Will it be able to survive without Oracle? I doubt it. --- Jonathan Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:It should be possible for the IOUG to live without Oracle's support. Obviously it would be better for all concerned if there is some measure of co-operation, and there's clearly no need for bloody-minded conflict. But if the IOUG just keeps doing things that the users want, then the users should be able to support it in the complete absence of any input from Oracle. Regards Jonathan Lewis http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk Coming soon one-day tutorials: Cost Based Optimisation Trouble-shooting and Tuning Indexing Strategies (see http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/tutorial.html ) ____UK_______March 19th ____USA_(FL)_May 2nd Next Seminar dates: (see http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/seminar.html ) ____USA_(CA, TX)_August The Co-operative Oracle Users' FAQ http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/faq/ind_faq.html MacGregor, Ian A. wrote:The IOUG cannot live without Oracle's support, butOracle can survive without the IOUG.-- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jonathan Lewis INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services---------------------------------------------------------------------To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).===== Pete Barnett Lead Database Administrator The Regence Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com
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