evidently i'm not the only one who thinks that, interesting.

joe


> It seems to me that IOUG has become a wholly owned
> subsidiary of TUSC.  TUSC in turn has an incestuous
> relationship with Oracle.  All very cozy.
> 
> No real complaint about the arrangements.  Someone has
> to step up to the plate if IOUG is going to continue
> to be a viable organization and in this economic
> climate few can afford to do it.
> 
> Should IOUG be able to survive without Oracle? 
> Probably.  Will it be able to survive without Oracle? 
> I doubt it.  
> 
> 
> --- Jonathan Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > 
> > It should be possible for the IOUG to live without
> > Oracle's support.  Obviously it would be better
> > for all concerned if there is some measure of
> > co-operation, and there's clearly no need for
> > bloody-minded conflict.  But if the IOUG just
> > keeps doing things that the users want, then
> > the users should be able to support it in the
> > complete absence of any input from Oracle.
> > 
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Jonathan Lewis
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> > 
> > MacGregor, Ian A. wrote:
> > >
> > >The IOUG cannot live without Oracle's support, but
> > Oracle can survive
> > without the IOUG.
> > >
> > 
> > 
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