Okay everyone. I have been watching this thread for a while and can't believe some of the comments from people that have been involved with the IOUG for years.
The IOUG has not banned anyone from exhibiting unless their technology is not related to Oracle. With respect to Moogen's comments, SQR (now Sybase) was banned by Oracle as Oracle controlled the IOUW and not the user group. The IOUG was involved, but they were not responsible for the exhibiting process. It would be a sad day if it happened, however, from my work on the conference committee, and with the IOUG, it has not. Thank You Stephen P. Karniotis Product Architect Compuware Corporation Direct: (248) 865-4350 Mobile: (248) 408-2918 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web: www.compuware.com -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 5:00 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Teradata baned from IOUG??? The IOUG cannot live without Oracle's support, but Oracle can survive without the IOUG. IOUG may cause the rare stink, but it always does as Oracle instructs. Michael Corey, erstwhile IOUG president, was going to force Oracle to change the date of its first OOW in the U.S. as it was scheduled at the same time as the IOUW. The latter had been scheduled for well over a year. The groundwork had not even started for OOW, but guess which one was moved. Teradata would not be the first product banned. Way back in olden-times the maker of SQR were banned, but I cannot remember why. The idea of the exhibit hall is for vendors to provide information on their products in respect to Oracle. Now a company wants to use the forum to convince people to stop using Oracle, or so Oracle apparently dreads. But, who goes to the conferences? Mainly DBA's and developers who have such a stake in Oracle that even if Teradata did everything that Oracle did, made breakfast, and washed the dishes, they would not recommend it. Oracle is risking bad public relations over nothing. Ian MacGregor Stanford Linear Accelerator Center [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I'm sorry but I thought that IOUG was independant from Oracle? If Larry is afraid of a little competition then perhaps he should get out of the market. If not then he should battle it out in every venue possible and show why Oracle is better. If Rich and the guys do this they will be setting a dangerous precedant. -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 2:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L DBA's Check the article's comment on Oracle trying to ban Teradata from IOUG Teradata Steals Oracle's Data Mart Users ... Teradata pushes consolidation and woos away Oracle customers. But Oracle strikes back. Sort of. Will bean counters surf the Web with Excel? 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