Thanks for the replies guys, I really appreciate it. Can i get some input on these 2 questions:
What chances am I looking at to > getting hired as a newbie DBA once I graduate? > > I want to get into the Ecommerce side of Oracle (connecting DBs to > websites/portals?). Which certification/path should I be > following? Thanks in advance!! THANKS, I'M STARTING TO LIKE THIS LIST ALREADY!!!!! ----- Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 12:35 PM > Les - Here is an idea for you. Think up a trivial application for a > database. Maybe your home albums or DVDs. Try to make it a little > relational, like have an "artist" table. Force yourself to work with it. At > the right time I was secretary of a bowling league, so each year I rewrote a > league management program in a different language, whatever I needed to > learn. I went through Oracle, COBOL, Perl, C, all in different years. The > point is that by playing "user" you get a good feel for why the heck > somebody would use a database to begin with. > > > > Dennis Williams > DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA > Lifetouch, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 2:00 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > I'm more of a windoz SA and have been working with a little Unix here & > there for hte past 2yrs.... (RH, Mandrake, Solaris). What I really want to > accomplish is to switch to Unix and Databases. My goal is to use my > certifcation as a way to get my foot in the door of the DB world and after a > couple of years, do some consulting. I downloaded oracle 9i for Solaris and > have yet to install it because I wanted to read up on Oracle 1st. Will > install it this weekend ;) > > I want to work with DBs because I think it's always going to be about > managing information and the need is never going to die. I don't know of > any midsize companies who would survive w/o some type of DB and after being > laid off twice, I'm reconsidering going into a different IT career. > > ----- Original Message ----- > To: Multiple <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> recipients of list ORACLE-L > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 8:34 AM > > > The $3000 is true if he takes them through 'oracle' university but not if > the local community college offers the classes. > > What I did (and it seemed to work fine) for my 8i certification is to go to > the community college bookstore and just buy the 'official' manuals and > never signed up for the classes. I was lucky enough to already have a jr > dba position so I was getting the real-world experience and I had a fairly > decent idea of how oracle worked at a very basic level. (although I will > say that my confidence in what I know has dropped dramatically in the last > several months since I joined this list and began reading book's such as > steve adams' 'oracle internals' and jonathan lewis's 'oracle 8i building > efficient databases'...which has spawned an enormous interest in continuing > to improve my knowledge of all things oracle) > > What really, really erks me is the fact that these certifications have been > cheapened by people who relay specific test questions and even entire exams > over the internet. People should be in it for the knowledge....not just to > get that certificate. I'd be scared sh#tless if I found a job where I > pretended to be a dba and justified it by my certification only to be given > actual dba responsibilities. ...i'd rather work at a coffee shop and not > have to deal with the stress (but that's just me) > > Anyways, I'm rambling now. > > Chris > > Oh yeah....a BIG OL THANKS to the pros on this list that put up with > questions from people like me! Your knowledge is GREATLY appreciated. > > Have a good one. > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 9:49 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > 9i will cost you more in the long run because you have to take 4 exams > at $150 each plus a $3000 course to get OCP. > > 8i then upgrade to 9i will cost you less but requires you to take up > to 6 exams at $150 each but no more $3000 course. > > -- > Lyndon Tiu > > > Quoting Les Ayudo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Hello, > > > > I'm thinking of going to school to get Oracle certified. There are > > 2 schools in my area that are offering Oracle certs but one offers > > Oracle 8i courses w/ an upgrade to 9i, while the other offers all > > 9i courses. If i go to the schools who offers 9i courses, would I > > miss out on valuable 8i knowledge? Which school should I attend? > > The courses will last about 7 or 8 months. Also, is this a good > > "in demand" field to get into? What chances am I looking at to > > getting hired as a newbie DBA once I graduate? > > > > I want to get into the Ecommerce side of Oracle (connecting DBs to > > websites/portals?). Which certification/path should I be > > following? Thanks in advance!! > > > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > <http://www.orafaq.net> > -- > Author: Lyndon Tiu > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > <http://www.fatcity.com> > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > > > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Les Ayudo INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
