Soon you too will be assimilated.  The TUSC Collective will add your
distinctiveness to its own.

--Seven of Nine-Hundred Ninety-Nine



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel W. Fink [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 12:59 PM
> To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject:      Re: Teradata baned from IOUG???
> 
> I know Stan Yellott is not a TUSC employee. He is the President of RMOUG
> and a great guy who has worked behind the scenes at many IOUG conferences.
> He is a tremendous calming influence (as many of us recall from San
> Diego).
> 
> I don't think Ian, Mark, Bill, Stephen or Steve are TUSC Employees, unless
> they have changed jobs recently.
> 
> Henry Poras wrote:
> 
> 
>       Anyone know if any of the 10 people running for the Board of
> Directors for
>       IOUG is a TUSC employee? Noone claims it in their statements.
>       
>       Henry
>       
>       
>       -----Original Message-----
>       Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 12:24 PM
>       To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>       
>       
>       me too...
>       
>       Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
>       [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>       
>       
>       
>       ----- Original Message -----
>       To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L"  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>       Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 11:11 AM
>       
>       
>         
> 
>               evidently i'm not the only one who thinks that, interesting.
>               
>               joe
>               
>               
>                   
> 
>                       It seems to me that IOUG has become a wholly owned
>                       subsidiary of TUSC.  TUSC in turn has an incestuous
>                       relationship with Oracle.  All very cozy.
>                       
>                       No real complaint about the arrangements.  Someone
> has
>                       to step up to the plate if IOUG is going to continue
>                       to be a viable organization and in this economic
>                       climate few can afford to do it.
>                       
>                       Should IOUG be able to survive without Oracle?
>                       Probably.  Will it be able to survive without
> Oracle?
>                       I doubt it.
>                       
>                       
>                       --- Jonathan Lewis  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>                       wrote:
>                             
> 
>                       It should be possible for the IOUG to live without
>                       Oracle's support.  Obviously it would be better
>                       for all concerned if there is some measure of
>                       co-operation, and there's clearly no need for
>                       bloody-minded conflict.  But if the IOUG just
>                       keeps doing things that the users want, then
>                       the users should be able to support it in the
>                       complete absence of any input from Oracle.
>                       
>                       
>                       Regards
>                       
>                       Jonathan Lewis
>                       <http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk>
>                       
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>                       The Co-operative Oracle Users' FAQ
>                       <http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/faq/ind_faq.html>
>                       
>                       
>                       MacGregor, Ian A. wrote:
>                               
> 
>                       The IOUG cannot live without Oracle's support, but
>                                 
> 
>                       Oracle can survive
>                       without the IOUG.
>                               
> 
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