I know Stan Yellott is not a TUSC employee. He is the President of RMOUG and a great guy who has worked behind the scenes at many IOUG conferences. He is a tremendous calming influence (as many of us recall from San Diego).

I don't think Ian, Mark, Bill, Stephen or Steve are TUSC Employees, unless they have changed jobs recently.

Henry Poras wrote:
Anyone know if any of the 10 people running for the Board of Directors for
IOUG is a TUSC employee? Noone claims it in their statements.

Henry


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me too...

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evidently i'm not the only one who thinks that, interesting.

joe


    
It seems to me that IOUG has become a wholly owned
subsidiary of TUSC.  TUSC in turn has an incestuous
relationship with Oracle.  All very cozy.

No real complaint about the arrangements.  Someone has
to step up to the plate if IOUG is going to continue
to be a viable organization and in this economic
climate few can afford to do it.

Should IOUG be able to survive without Oracle?
Probably.  Will it be able to survive without Oracle?
I doubt it.


--- Jonathan Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
      
It should be possible for the IOUG to live without
Oracle's support.  Obviously it would be better
for all concerned if there is some measure of
co-operation, and there's clearly no need for
bloody-minded conflict.  But if the IOUG just
keeps doing things that the users want, then
the users should be able to support it in the
complete absence of any input from Oracle.


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MacGregor, Ian A. wrote:
        
The IOUG cannot live without Oracle's support, but
          
Oracle can survive
without the IOUG.
        
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