At another gig the SA's got an Oracle Monitoring "DBA Helper" type product for eval. 
With their wiz bang toy they thought they could now question the DBA about every 
little thing and I was getting pestered with lots of meaningless junk. Of course the 
most prominently dislayed metric was the BCHR. They seemed to think that, since the 
toy cost so much it must be right and was unveiling esoteric truths about the 
mysterious Oracle. In an effort to try to convince them that the tool was dumb and I 
was at least a little smarter than the dumb tool, I said something like, "Here, I have 
a tool for you... take this hammer and you will automatically become a master 
carpenter." After their puzzlement I explained that their toy was no better that a 
hammer in the hands of an uncoordinated, untrained monkey. Eventually they left me 
alone and they even got to where they believed me... most of the time anyway. :-)


Steve Orr


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I wasn't supposed to be able to review the items that are checked for
performance (it's a "confidential" list) but one of the dbas let me see
it...

BCHR is a very important item. 

I screamed. Didn't help. One more item for my paper.


--- "Goulet, Dick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rachel,
> 
>       We use a product from another vendor for the same reason.  It's
> here, not turned on, works like a pile of ****, but management is
> happy.  As they say, ignorance is bliss!!
> 
> Dick Goulet
> Senior Oracle DBA
> Oracle Certified 8i DBA 
> 
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> 
> the hosting company we work with uses it. I don't have specifics but
> they seem happy with it
> 
> --- "Thater, William" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Dave Bruce scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
> > 
> > > Anyone in the HP/Oracle camp using HP's OpenView and its Smart
> > > Plug-in for Oracle to monitor databases?
> > > We are in the beginning stages of implementing. I'd be interested
> > in
> > > hearing people's experiences. Thanks.
> > 
> > well, we tried to use it as the last gig, but never got it to work
> no
> > matter
> > how much tweaking we did.
> > 
> > --
> > Bill "Shrek" Thater                       Oracle DBA
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