This is all very funny and interesting.  Anybody read the story in
yesterday's NY times?  Mexica has a concern that their textile industry is
being "stolen" by China because it is cheaper to make products there than in
Mexico.
Sound familiar?

"This is the business we have chosen to be into"  Himen Roth (and I know
spelled his first name wrong).


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It doesn't work in only one direction. While jobs are bieng lost to cheaper 
labor markets, Indian companies now have to compete with frighteningly
efficient
giants like Nike, Coca Cola, IBM, Microsoft, GM, Union Carbide  and others.
Local 
companies are losing the market and have to reduce their workforce, driving
the
cost of labor further down and closing the vicious circle. What  is scary is
the 
fact that we are an order of magnitude more efficient then the rest of the
world, 
even with all our PHB's and damagement. How messed up is everybody else? The
only 
difference between a US DBA and a cleaning leady, which has also been
replaced by 
an immigrant a long time ago, is the fact that the DBA has easier access to
the 
DBA mailing lists. If we weren't crying foul then, there is no need to do it
now. 
We will simply have to adjust and do something else. The first thing that
comes 
to mind is becoming a lawyer. When I want to sue somebody,
I'd like to be represented by a cutthroat yankee lawyer, not by a very
polite and
non-aggressive gentleman from India. Lawyers do need a killer instinct, DBAs
do
not. For those of us who have it, it's more of a hindrance then a useful
tool.
Lawyers and politicians, fortunately for Indians, will never be outsourced
to India.
Here is our chance. 


--
Mladen Gogala
Oracle DBA 



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Souto
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:55 PM
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LOL!

Funny how this "globalisation" bull only
works in one direction, eh?

Cheers
Nuno Souto
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> ** Another programmer who lost his job to an Indian outsourcer is 
> willing to relocate in India. But Indian officials have told him they 
> don't hire Americans. Read about another politicized IT worker in "No 
> Americans Need Apply."


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