Maybe the thieves are running Oracle on HP and they need to
add two more CPU to their server.


-----Original Message-----
From:   Mogens Nørgaard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent:   Sun 9/7/2003 4:49 AM
To:     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
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Subject:        Re: Offshore threat
While I was still in Oracle, thieves broke into the offices of Oracle in 
Oslo, Norway, and removed two HP cpu's from the main computer there. 
They ignored all the nice laptops on the tables around them. Now, that 
is weird.

Mladen Gogala wrote:

>Two IBM mainframes stolen? Boy, the times are changing! To steal only a
>single 3090 600J,
>one would need a whole infantry division, not just two guys with a dolly. 
>I bet they'll end up running Linux and having a ton of Jared's perl scripts
>on them.
>
>--
>Mladen Gogala
>Oracle DBA 
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Wolfe Stephen S GS-11 6 MDSS/SGSI
>Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 11:14 AM
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/09/04/1062548967124.html
>
>A - This is social engineering at its finest.
>
>B - There is no security without PHYSICAL security
>
>C - If you don't check up on your outsourcer, then you can apparently get
>the shirt stolen off your back...
>
> 
>
>v/r
>
>Stephen S. Wolfe, GS-11, DAFC
>Data Services Manager
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>
>
>  
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Stephane Paquette [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:15 PM
>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>>Subject: RE: Offshore threat
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>>
>>When working at International Air Transport Association
>>(IATA), the company moved around 60 jobs from Geneva and 
>>London to Montreal because it was cheaper here.
>>
>>This is all business as usual.
>>
>>
>>
>>Stephane Paquette
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>>Standard Life
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>>-----Original Message-----
>>Mercadante, Thomas F
>>Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:50 PM
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>>
>>This is all very funny and interesting.  Anybody read the
>>story in yesterday's NY times?  Mexica has a concern that 
>>their textile industry is being "stolen" by China because it 
>>is cheaper to make products there than in Mexico. Sound familiar?
>>
>>"This is the business we have chosen to be into"  Himen Roth
>>(and I know spelled his first name wrong).
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 2:10 PM
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>>
>>It doesn't work in only one direction. While jobs are bieng
>>lost to cheaper labor markets, Indian companies now have to 
>>compete with frighteningly efficient giants like Nike, Coca 
>>Cola, IBM, Microsoft, GM, Union Carbide  and others. Local 
>>companies are losing the market and have to reduce their 
>>workforce, driving the cost of labor further down and closing 
>>the vicious circle. What  is scary is the fact that we are an 
>>order of magnitude more efficient then the rest of the world, 
>>even with all our PHB's and damagement. How messed up is 
>>everybody else? The only difference between a US DBA and a 
>>cleaning leady, which has also been replaced by an immigrant 
>>a long time ago, is the fact that the DBA has easier access 
>>to the DBA mailing lists. If we weren't crying foul then, 
>>there is no need to do it now. We will simply have to adjust 
>>and do something else. The first thing that comes to mind is 
>>becoming a lawyer. When I want to sue somebody, I'd like to 
>>be represented by a cutthroat yankee lawyer, not by a very 
>>polite and non-aggressive gentleman from India. Lawyers do 
>>need a killer instinct, DBAs do not. For those of us who have 
>>it, it's more of a hindrance then a useful tool. Lawyers and 
>>politicians, fortunately for Indians, will never be 
>>outsourced to India. Here is our chance.
>>
>>
>>--
>>Mladen Gogala
>>Oracle DBA
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Souto
>>Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:55 PM
>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
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>>
>>LOL!
>>
>>Funny how this "globalisation" bull only
>>works in one direction, eh?
>>
>>Cheers
>>Nuno Souto
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>>>** Another programmer who lost his job to an Indian outsourcer is
>>>willing to relocate in India. But Indian officials have 
>>>      
>>>
>>told him they
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>>>don't hire Americans. Read about another politicized IT
>>>      
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>>worker in "No
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