That was my point. The UK is a haven for postal vote fraud as opposed to fraud 
in person.

Why turn up (with or without ID) when you can send in a postal vote and no-one 
will check.

Also, if you want your numerous relatives to vote for Labour or Lib Dems then 
it's easier for them to send in a postal vote.  Why go to the trouble of them 
turning up in person.  Many of them may not even speak English and therefore 
have problems voting in person.

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On Wed, 1/8/14, Bryn Salisbury <[email protected]> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [ORG-discuss] UK Electoral Commission wants to introduce Voter ID
 To: "Open Rights Group open discussion list" 
<[email protected]>
 Date: Wednesday, January 8, 2014, 9:53 AM
 
 As I recall, that particular
 case centered around postal vote fraud, rather than "in
 person" voting. As Ben points out, presenting VoterID
 won't actually fix the that issue.
 
 
 B
 
 On 8 January 2014
 17:46, Bobby Brewster <[email protected]>
 wrote:
 
 
 The
 problem occurs when a two bedroom terraced house in inner
 London mysteriously contains 45 people registered on the
 Electoral Register all with similar sounding names.
 
 
 
 
 
 These names may well derive from practicioners of a certain
 religion.
 
 
 
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 On Wed, 1/8/14, Ben Brown <[email protected]>
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [ORG-discuss] UK Electoral Commission wants
 to introduce Voter ID
 
  To: "Open Rights Group open discussion list"
 <[email protected]>
 
  Date: Wednesday, January 8, 2014, 8:17 AM
 
 
 
  IIRC the biggest area of
 
  fraud in UK elections is via postal votes. How would
 
  mandatory ID solve this?
 
 
 
 
 
  On 8 January 2014
 
  15:49, David Durant <[email protected]>
 
  wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
  > My point: absence of evidence is not evidence of
 
  absence.
 
 
 
  It's rather sidetracking the thread but that premise
 can
 
  lead to all kinds of issues. We don't know that the
 
  person living next door isn't plotting a terrorist
 
  attack so therefor we'll monitor his (and everyone
 
  else's) private data communications just in case.
 
 
 
 
 
  In this particular case, as with so many others,
 
  I think it comes down to risk vs. reward and damage. If a
 
  lot of money is spent to prevent a small amount of fraud
 and
 
  in the same instance a lot of people are disenfranchised
 
  then the whole system is questionable.
 
 
 
 
 
  It's hard to discuss this without reliable
 
  statistics but I would start off by asking whether
 
  anyone thinks enough organised voter fraud is
 
  happening in the UK to actually change the outcome of
 
  elections?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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