Lindy wrote about The Accessible Origami Project - www.accessorigami.com

Thank you Lindy for pointing out this project. There are quite a couple of
blind folders out there. It is good to know a great resource like this one.
It is very true, that text only instructions need to carry a lot more
information that texts that are only meant to accompany pictures. I guess
it would be a good exercise for everyone teaching Origami to write a set of
text only instructions.

The Chat GPT app is interesting. It has a huge data set in the background
but it doesn't always find the right connections. One of the questions I
asked it was about circle packing in Origami design. The answer started by
explaining that it is a design technique used to efficiently position
circles on squares, but then it explained that you then fold along the
arches of the circles, well,... But when I asked it to write me a program
for circle packing it did it in an instant. I got a python program to place
circles on a square. When I asked to get a similar program in Java, I got
one. So I guess if I had explained a little better what exactly the program
shall do, within a few minutes I would have had a working program. Sure, I
could just go along and use an already existing program like treemaker by
Robert J. Lang https://langorigami.com/article/treemaker/ but that's not
the point. If you've got a great idea and you are able to communicate it to
this AI, even if you do not know how to code, it could provide you with
additional inputs to realize it. Maybe this AI can't give you proper phone
folding instructions yet, but it might still be able to help us create new
Origami designs. In any case, the future just came a step closer.

Best regards, Anna

Am Mo., 30. Jan. 2023 um 14:24 Uhr schrieb Lindy van der Merwe <
steph...@iafrica.com>:

> I have not worked with the app yet, but find this topic very interesting
> since, as a totally blind folder, I have been creating text-only
> instructions for a while now.
>
> You can find them at www.accessorigami.com
>
>  From the main page there is a link with some other sites and authors as
> well. I think there may be a difference between instructions that don't
> rely on pictures, diagrams or other visual input at all, and those text
> instructions that refer to some accompanying visual elements.
>
>   I think this might be applicable to lots of "how to" questions one
> could ask from the app?
>
> Kind regards.
>
> Lindy van der Merwe - Cape Town, South Africa
>
> The Accessible Origami Project - www.accessorigami.com
>
>
>
> On 2023/01/29 16:09, Matthew Green wrote:
> > I guess part of the problem is that there are insufficient examples of
> > text-only origami instructions in ChatGPT's set of training texts. We
> > all need to start publishing text-only instructions for lots of
> > traditional and original models to help the AIs of the future be
> > better at this task!
> > Or not.
> > Creating an AI that can create step-by-step text descriptions of what
> > happens on the screen in a video would be another solution, but quite
> > a challenge, I suppose...
> > Best,
> > Matthew
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On 28 Jan 2023, at 17:52, Anna via Origami
> >> <origami@lists.digitalorigami.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> 
> >> Laura wrote:
> >> > "Has Chat GPT (I mean, its AI) ever “seen” the process of folding
> >> an origami crane?"
> >>
> >> Well, I guess it is a philosophical question, whether a text-based AI
> >> is able to see, but I guess no, not in the way we see, feel and
> >> experience the world. As it seems, the AI is still missing data about
> >> Origami.
> >>
> >> Louise wrote:
> >> > "Use YouTube videos. The quality varies but keep looking for a
> >> video you
> >> can follow."
> >>
> >> Thank you but I'm well aware how to fold a crane. Some years ago
> >> Gerwin and I even "optimized" the folding sequence to be more fun,
> >> faster and easier to fold. You should give it a try:
> >> http://www.origami.at/diagrams/crane.pdf
> >> The question was does the newly hyped AI know how to fold a crane
> >> too? The answer is a clear no. AI might be part of our future, but I
> >> guess until it starts to be any useful in Origami it might still take
> >> a while.
> >>
> >> Best regards, Anna
>

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