>
>
>Of course, this is a little unfair - weblogic hadn't had a new release for
>several months, either. They've just had a major release recently, which
>makes it seem like they're more active than Orion, when that's not
>necessarily the case. It might be, but that's not implied by the situation
>at present.
>
>For the most part, Orion is still very much ahead of the pack, and the
>speed is stil EXCELLENT. While I'm very much looking forward to a new
doesn't buy you much if it isn't reliable. that's the sad thing. it's true
that they are ahead of the pack in a number of fields but if you're stuck
with a serious bug without the slightest hint when things will be fixed
it's still a KO criterion (germanism?). at the moment we're not switching
to an alternative because
1. most of our projects where orion is currently used in production
wouldn't allow a switch to WLS budgetwise
2. OSS alternatives are still far from the completeness orion offers (sad
but it's the truth), which especially hurts if you have a large number of
deployed J2EE applications which we do
3. there is some (not too much) hope left, they have learned their lesson
and won't underestimate QA requirements in the future once they come back
and start releasing updates again
at the moment we settled for living with a number of strange behaviours and
awkward workarounds that we simply hope won't break our necks the next day
(which is not a good feeling to live with). one lesson I have learned is
that there is a substantial risk involved in choosing a brandnew (even
standard) technology. I would be more careful next time. Now too much work
has gone into the current setup to change it to other alternatives and
other products supporting the same standards are simply too expensive.
>round of released bug fixes, I'm still waiting for some things to shake
>out before I abandon ship.
but you have to admit that it's getting harder to hold on to that?
my 2 c
robert
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Santosh Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 12:57 AM
> > To: Orion-Interest
> > Subject: Re: Any news from Orion yet??
> >
> >
> > Hi kevin,
> > As far as i have known WL5.1 or <, there is no concept of ear
> files,
> > does 6.0 include
> > that. Doesn't the J2EE mandate (I am not sure!) the use of EAR
> = WAR + JAR
> > + CAR(or JAR)?
> > To deploy the JPS1.1.1 on Orion, it is a piece of cake, while deploying on
> > WLS, i have to
> > unpack the EAR files and dis-integrate them which is contrary to the
> essence
> > of packaging the ear files,
> > Even meddling with the ugly weblogic.properties frustrates one and all. Is
> > that true with all WLS users?
> >
> > Orion is a neat impl of J2EE, is WLS6.0?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Santosh.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Kevin Duffey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Orion-Interest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 12:07 PM
> > Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet??
> >
> >
> > > I am not one to advocate another product, but WL6 looks nice. It is easy
> > to
> > > work with compared to WL5.1. Orion is still the best. JBoss looks very
> > > interesting as well.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Neville
> > > > Burnell
> > > > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 2:26 PM
> > > > To: Orion-Interest
> > > > Cc: Orion-Interest
> > > > Subject: FW: Any news from Orion yet??
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yes - pls Orion people, publish some news & update Orion ...
> > > >
> > > > We are looking to buy at least 3 licences over the next few weeks if
> > > > everything is ok
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > > Neville Burnell
> > > > Business Manager Software
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Duffey, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Sunday, 14 January 2001 12:45 PM
> > > > To: Orion-Interest
> > > > Subject: Any news from Orion yet??
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > Has anyone heard from the team lately? I know I saw a post about a
> month
> > > > or
> > > > so ago. Its been about 3 or 4 months since anything has changed on
> their
> > > > site, if not longer and now its getting me worried. I can understand
> > > > them
> > > > trying to organize the company, but did production stop on the app
> > > > server? I
> > > > wish there was some news once every couple of weeks or so from them on
> > > > their
> > > > site letting us know what is happening.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
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