JoeO, I'm going to talk you in a way that may bother you...

<flamebait>
DON'T STAND FOR IRONFLARE... they may or may not be rightfully accussed,
but assuming their defense without being a part of the company hurts them,
because
they seem to have run out of reasons; almost look like awaiting the best
offer...
And it hurts us, because with each reply that doesn't come from them, our
positions
grow weaker and you'll start to see an awful lot of them unsubscribe
messages
</flamebait>

I love Orion, but I regret to say I don't trust it any further than I can
throw it

JP
-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph B. Ottinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Lunes, 15 de Enero de 2001 12:21
To: Orion-Interest
Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet??


On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, Jason Boehle wrote:

> WL6 has support for EARs.  They also support all of the EJB 2.0 spec
except
> for dependent objects.  In fact, I am currently using WL6 for development
> instead of Orion, due to the apparent lack of development going on in the
> Orion team on EJB 2.0.  I had suggested to my boss that we use Orion, as I
> had been lurking and following it for several months, and saw that it
always
> met the latest specs first, etc. - now I feel dumb for doing so, as they
> haven't had a new release in several months...

Of course, this is a little unfair - weblogic hadn't had a new release for
several months, either. They've just had a major release recently, which
makes it seem like they're more active than Orion, when that's not
necessarily the case. It might be, but that's not implied by the situation
at present.

For the most part, Orion is still very much ahead of the pack, and the
speed is stil EXCELLENT. While I'm very much looking forward to a new
round of released bug fixes, I'm still waiting for some things to shake
out before I abandon ship.

> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Santosh Kumar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 12:57 AM
> To: Orion-Interest
> Subject: Re: Any news from Orion yet??
> 
> 
> Hi kevin,
>         As far as i have known WL5.1 or <, there is no concept of ear
files,
> does 6.0 include
> that. Doesn't the J2EE mandate (I am not sure!) the use of EAR =  WAR  +
JAR
> + CAR(or JAR)?
> To deploy the JPS1.1.1 on Orion, it is a piece of cake, while deploying on
> WLS, i have to
> unpack the EAR files and dis-integrate them which is contrary to the
essence
> of packaging the ear files,
> Even meddling with the ugly weblogic.properties frustrates one and all. Is
> that true with all WLS users?
> 
> Orion is a neat impl of J2EE,  is WLS6.0?
> 
> Regards,
> Santosh.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Kevin Duffey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Orion-Interest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 12:07 PM
> Subject: RE: Any news from Orion yet??
> 
> 
> > I am not one to advocate another product, but WL6 looks nice. It is easy
> to
> > work with compared to WL5.1. Orion is still the best. JBoss looks very
> > interesting as well.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Neville
> > > Burnell
> > > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 2:26 PM
> > > To: Orion-Interest
> > > Cc: Orion-Interest
> > > Subject: FW: Any news from Orion yet??
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes - pls Orion people, publish some news & update Orion ...
> > >
> > > We are looking to buy at least 3 licences over the next few weeks if
> > > everything is ok
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Neville Burnell
> > > Business Manager Software
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Duffey, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Sunday, 14 January 2001 12:45 PM
> > > To: Orion-Interest
> > > Subject: Any news from Orion yet??
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Has anyone heard from the team lately? I know I saw a post about a
month
> > > or
> > > so ago. Its been about 3 or 4 months since anything has changed on
their
> > > site, if not longer and now its getting me worried. I can understand
> > > them
> > > trying to organize the company, but did production stop on the app
> > > server? I
> > > wish there was some news once every couple of weeks or so from them on
> > > their
> > > site letting us know what is happening.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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Joseph B. Ottinger                           [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://epesh.com/                             IT Consultant


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