A most interesting twist... Hmm... I dunno, this is most unexpected. It's
probably best to wait a couple days so that Joseph/Magnus can address this
issue. Given that Orionsupport went dark today, it seems control of
orionsupport has passed on to the orionserver/Ironflare folks. That may
indicate a dedicated support site in the near future or it may mean that
community support will now slow to a crawl...
The Orion developers have been mighty quiet. I really like Orion as a
product and would prefer to see it become immensely successful.
Nevertheless the lack of feedback from Ironflare is disconcerting...
Personally, I'm hedging my bets with jboss....
Returning to the core question -- I wholeheartedly agree that better support
is vital, be it official or community-based. If no groundbreaking news
comes from Ironflare or orionsupport, I'm all for orionsig.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael J. Cannon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Orion-Interest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 6:07 PM
Subject: RE: productive comment.
> Another bit of info:
>
> From NSI WHOIS:
>
>
http://www.networksolutions.com/cgi-bin/whois/whois?STRING=orionsupport.com&
> STRING=Search
>
> Magnus owns it now.
>
> NOW WHAT?
>
> Michael J. Cannon
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stan Ng
> > Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 5:37 PM
> > To: Orion-Interest
> > Subject: Re: productive comment.
> >
> >
> > I'm all for this idea. Orionsupport is a community support
> > effort run on a
> > volunteer basis and I believe that it is hosted on Joseph's development
> > machine using Orion. :) : ) :) I'd be willing to help shoulder
> > some of the
> > costs in moving everything over to an ISP host.
> >
> > There's no need for a new domain, imho... orionsupport has been very
open
> > and supportive (no pun intended). I say that we just give those
> > good folks
> > a nice place to put everything without tying up their resources.
> >
> > Community support for Orion has been excellent. The thing I'm
> > worried about
> > is how the Orion developers are doing... is there anything we can
> > do to help
> > out the guys at orionserver/ironflare?
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael J. Cannon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Orion-Interest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 10:47 PM
> > Subject: RE: productive comment.
> >
> >
> > > RE: How do we take the next step?
> > >
> > > A sig is, classically a _S_pecial _I_nterest _G_roup, in the computer
> > > culture.
> > >
> > > orionsig.net, orionsig.org and orionsig.com are available. Pick 'em.
> > Don't
> > > need a license from anyone to be a 'general purpose special interest
> > group,'
> > > as long as you don't purport to be in any 'special' circumstance or
make
> > > unfounded claims or use words that have obvious legal meaning.
> > >
> > > I've got a fixed IP, but it's on a slow and restricted
> > connection. I know
> > > an ISP that is easy to work with, charges $39/mo, knows how to run
> > services
> > > for Java, and is relatively small and responsive, and accesses through
a
> > > multiple T3 (second-tier backbone access, they're actually a
> > small CLEC).
> > > They also are an accredited registrar for all the above TLD's
> > (turn-around
> > > is typically about 24 hours to propagate through BIND/DNS and the
> > internic).
> > > I'd be willing to donate the first six months worth of host costs,
and,
> > > after 30 days, pay for the Orion license myself (gotta run the site on
> > > Orion, don't we?) with these guys or anyone better.
> > >
> > > Let's just DO IT. Anyone else want to help?
> > >
> > > Michael Cannon
> > > mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
>