Um... a few clarifications.

1) Orionsupport.com as a domain is not owned by me.
2) the domain's content is currently hosted by my development machine.
3) Since I'm such a nice guy,and very reticent in my views, I get attacked
on a semi-regular basis by kidz, and the box isn't exactly noncrufty to
begin with, so sometimes availability is an issue.
4) No-one pays for it, except me (and a few others,who spend time keeping it
up.)
5) I'm working on continuing development; I want to add a forum set, as well
as organize a mechanism by which I can be remunerated for my effort and time
spent on it. That includes a more stable machine, and no - I'm not trying to
position myself as the sole support for orion. By "remuneration," I mean a
setup by which everyone who offers support can be rewarded. (And what's
more, I want peace on earth, swords beaten into radioactive ploughshares,
etc.)

BTW, orionsupport is back up; it had a, um, small problem with kernel
threads.

On Fri, Apr 13, 2001 at 07:24:20PM -0500, Michael J. Cannon wrote:
> Fine, but OrionSupport.com is _already_ owned by Joe & Co. and they are not
> responding (I sent them a letter and am sending another off-line).
> 
> Michael J. Cannon
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stan Ng
> > Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 5:37 PM
> > To: Orion-Interest
> > Subject: Re: productive comment.
> >
> >
> > I'm all for this idea.  Orionsupport is a community support
> > effort run on a
> > volunteer basis and I believe that it is hosted on Joseph's development
> > machine using Orion. :) : ) :)  I'd be willing to help shoulder
> > some of the
> > costs in moving everything over to an ISP host.
> >
> > There's no need for a new domain, imho... orionsupport has been very open
> > and supportive (no pun intended).  I say that we just give those
> > good folks
> > a nice place to put everything without tying up their resources.
> >
> > Community support for Orion has been excellent.  The thing I'm
> > worried about
> > is how the Orion developers are doing... is there anything we can
> > do to help
> > out the guys at orionserver/ironflare?
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael J. Cannon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Orion-Interest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 10:47 PM
> > Subject: RE: productive comment.
> >
> >
> > > RE: How do we take the next step?
> > >
> > > A sig is, classically a _S_pecial _I_nterest _G_roup, in the computer
> > > culture.
> > >
> > > orionsig.net, orionsig.org and orionsig.com are available.  Pick 'em.
> > Don't
> > > need a license from anyone to be a 'general purpose special interest
> > group,'
> > > as long as you don't purport to be in any 'special' circumstance or make
> > > unfounded claims or use words that have obvious legal meaning.
> > >
> > > I've got a fixed IP, but it's on a slow and restricted
> > connection.  I know
> > > an ISP that is easy to work with, charges $39/mo, knows how to run
> > services
> > > for Java, and is relatively small and responsive, and accesses through a
> > > multiple T3 (second-tier backbone access, they're actually a
> > small CLEC).
> > > They also are an accredited registrar for all the above TLD's
> > (turn-around
> > > is typically about 24 hours to propagate through BIND/DNS and the
> > internic).
> > > I'd be willing to donate the first six months worth of host costs, and,
> > > after 30 days, pay for the Orion license myself (gotta run the site on
> > > Orion, don't we?) with these guys or anyone better.
> > >
> > > Let's just DO IT.  Anyone else want to help?
> > >
> > > Michael Cannon
> > > mailto:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> >
> 

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