Elephant walker is capable and I registered oionsig.org a while ago (when
this was an issue for me - I think it was April).  My ISP allows GNU
Mailman, so that shouldn't be a problem.  Also, you're free to start a Yahoo
Club, or host the site on SourceForge (you could set it up so that it was a
MBSD or ASL licensed site for extensions, mods, etc. specifically slanted to
Orion's implementation of J2EE).

What do you suggest, keeping in mind that this only accomplishes the task of
further fragmenting the community (as IronFlare will still only post the
link to their mailserver on their site, so part of the admin's job would be
to spam this list with announcements and run copy-to scripts).

Michael J. Cannon
PM/COO - hsqldb.org, Inc.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Clinton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Orion-Interest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: I think, I will start a support site too....


> Another good point on this lousy list.  I am unable to comprehend how a
> mailing list like this could be so bad.  Could whoever is responsible
> for this list please answer one of these threads and explain yourself?
>
> This list could be hosted on a free listserver like Yahoo lists with
> much better results.
>
> Is there anyone out there on the list that would be able to host it?  We
> could then just start our own list with a competent administrator and
> let this one die.
>
> I would like to hear more opinions on this so when you get this message
> in 4 or 5 hours or so, please reply.  I am looking forward to your
> responses, which I should get sometime tomorrow around 12:00 est.
>
> Bill
>
> Alex Paransky wrote:
>
> > (in style of Andy Rooney)
> >
> > I see everyone is starting their support sites for Orion.  I think it's
a
> > poor solution for something that's broken, mainly, this mailing list.
How
> > many support sites do we actually have now?  Why is it such a problem to
> > keep the mailing list up and running?
> >
> > Now, we need to post the message to at least 3 places to make sure it
gets
> > maximum exposure.  I think I will start a support site, that posts to
all
> > other support sites, just so that people don't have to search various
> > support sites for help.
> >
> > I don't mind so many support sites starting up, I just think they are
> > starting up for poor reasons and fragmenting what little knowledge we
> > already have about this product.
> >
> > What is the problem with the list?  Why is it down half the time? I hope
> > it's not running under Orion...
> >
> > -AP_
>
>


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