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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Clinton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Orion-Interest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: I think, I will start a support site too....
> Um......
>
> are you serious with this example? I am sure I can find an example of a
> website running on IIS where some pre-teenage girl posts pictures of her
> pet cat - that doesn't mean I can use it for a high-availablilty
> load-balanced application.
>
I was just responding to Mr. Paransky, that, despite all of his complaints
about using Orion as a basis for communications, he was doing EXACTLY that.
> I reread your post searching for where I missed the joke,
Look at the sender of the original message I was replying to, then look at
who owns the web page.
>but I think
> you are serious. So, I will agree with you: the quality of the orion
> mailing list is appropriate for a product meant to host collections of
> personal "under construction" pages.
Actually, as I said, I think that it is a valuable exercise in valence and
load testing of the app server in a 'worst-case' scenario. However, I too
would like to see it on GNU Mailman. I don't think it will be, though. So,
I've learned to live with it, because it does not belong to me.
I would suggest the developers and owners of IronFlare read the ClueTrain
Manifesto (at http://www.cluetrain.com/) but, they're Swedish, they're
(hopefully) busy, and the site and maillist belongs to them (and they charge
me nothing to subscribe).
As to why it is hosted in the way it is, Orion is a private company,
therefore, it's none of my business. Keep in mind, OC4J is Orion,
therefore, Oracle OC4J maillists and fora at OTN and the Oracle USENET feed
are available to you, if you wish (although there is a high amount of noise
there), as are the other support sites that were Mr. Paransky's origin for
this thread's beginning.
BTW, when these issues concerned me, in April, I was pointed to the
following link:
http://www.orionsupport.com/articles/vision.html
I now prefer to see this list as a node in that vision. If I need help,
there are many places for me to find it and I always come back and post my
experience here (if it is not already in the archive).
Finally, keep in mind that we don't know for sure WHAT platform the server
uses for this maillist. The problems could be hardware or incompetent
hosting...or the whole thing could be a succesful experiment. Given the
number of successful sites up and running Orion, as compared to Websphere
and Weblogic, I think the case can be made for the latter, rather than any
of the former.
Mike
>
> Bill
>
> Michael J. Cannon wrote:
>
> ----snip----
> > ....and if Orion is good enough for you to run a web site - (and it is:
> > http:/www.standardset.com/ )
> > well, it should be good enough for Orion, especially since they
developed it
> > and this is one of the 'load and valence test platforms (if it does
indeed
> > run on Orion) for the product.
>
> ----snip----
>
>
>
