I think he's talking about the non-core packages...  we can...

- ship future tarballs with core packages only
- have user then d/l all the optional "included" packages via OPD or...
- grab a tarball with all the remaining "included" packages

etc...

Cheers,

Bernard 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Paul Greidanus
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 10:57
> To: Siadal, Jeremy C
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Oscar-devel] PVM's setup script -> package repos
> 
> I'd suspect there should be a easy way to setup a local repository, 
> which you could populate from a download of a net repository? 
> use some 
> sort of FTP mirror program?
> 
> Definitly something that would need to be documented though.
> 
> Siadal, Jeremy C wrote:
> > Being in the situation where I use few of the optional components, I
> > agree that the tarball is a bit bloated. However, we need a 
> mechanism
> > that allows package updates both online and offline.
> > 
> > As my clusters don't have access to the Internet, I need a 
> simple method
> > to grab the additional packages I use and add them to 
> OSCAR. This also
> > usually means I need to grab the packages with a Windows 
> system and then
> > transfer the packages to CD or upload them to the cluster.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf 
> Of Bernard Li
> > Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 2:43 PM
> > To: Bruce Becker; Paul Greidanus
> > Cc: [email protected]
> > Subject: RE: [Oscar-devel] PVM's setup script -> package repos
> > 
> > I guess really, you need the pre-reqs, even the core packages can be
> > downloaded "just in time".
> > 
> > I'll let other developers pitch in their thoughts.  My 
> concern is that
> > the tarball is continuing to grow and it may become too 
> bloated for us
> > to manage in the future.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Bernard 
> > 
> > 
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> >>Bruce Becker
> >>Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 13:11
> >>To: Paul Greidanus
> >>Cc: [email protected]
> >>Subject: Re: [Oscar-devel] PVM's setup script -> package repos
> >>
> >>Hi OSCAR-devel,
> >>
> >>Sorry to sort of butt-in...
> >>
> >>>I've been wondering why more packages aren't in the step 0 
> aditional
> >>>packages, rather then in the growing tarball?
> >>>What about using the tarball to distribute only really core 
> >>
> >>things, and
> >>
> >>>have everything else downloadable just in-time, or for the user to
> >>>mirror for their arch locally (by a script?)
> >>
> >>From a purely bandwidth-related point fo view, I would 
> really like to
> >>see this happen - it takes us over 36 hours to get an OSCAR tarball
> >>down to Cape Town... There are certain packages that we can do
> >>without, and would only add them just-in-time as you say, when users
> >>clamour. What is the minimum of packages that _have_ to be bundled
> >>with the trunk ?
> >>
> >>Thanks
> >>Bruce
> >>
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