Hi, Since a few days, I was assigned to solve a bug on crispy branch. All my machines are on Debian and this branch does not support it. So, I've installed Fedora Core. I began from the latest, the 8th, on a vmware machine. - about 1 hour - Then, I checked out the branch from SVN. As I know it's big, I wanted to do it on the host and export by NFS. After fighting with NFS and vmware for some time unfortunately, I gave up and checked out SVN directly on the vmware machine. With all the RPMs (99% unuseful for me), I've downloaded 1.1GB. So after, couple of hours, I have a running machine with OSCAR svn checked out.
Then, I ran 'make test' and it failed because " Fedora Core 8' is not supported. Why it is not supported ? I don't know. Usually, when I want to install a software, I know that it depends on certain version of certain software. Hence, I can upgrade some pieces of software. Here, with OSCAR, no. I just know that "distribution <bla> is not supported". End. So, I returned to step 0 (installing Fedora Core 7 on a vmware machine, checking SVN, etc.). 2 days later (I can not spend my whole day playing with OSCAR), I run make test and I have: ERROR: Impossible to detect the distro associated to the pool /tftpboot/distro/fedora-7-i386 STOP ! I give up. I won't fix this bug I could not even see as I never could run OSCAR. The bug is about modifying scripts paths: all needed information is here http://svn.oscar.openclustergroup.org/trac/oscar/wiki/opkgAPI#APIscripts 2 years ago, when I tried OSCAR for the first time, I had the same issues and I thought I was dumb. But, finally, after trying times and times to install it, I just succeeded 1 time to see the wizard and deploying an image. When I tried again, the wizard failed. So all this story to say that I refuse to release an OSCAR version which does not install easily. Installation manual is a _book_, it should contain only "./configure && make && make install". I don't want to download 1GB from SVN to have a look at 100 lines of Perl. FMHO, these are the priorities, and not integrating HA, new fs, or new killing feature. I know that I don't bring any solution in this mail but I just want to speak about the goal of the project, which is to bring an _easy_ solution to deploy cluster. During the last developers meeting, we agreed on the fact that one of the solution to ease the deployment was to have online repository (one of the reason is to get rid of these tons of RPMs downloaded by SVN). I also think that on these repositories, packages must be compiled automatically. Each time spent to compile an RPM could be used to help developping an automatic build platform. But instead of that, I tried to develop one on 2 old P3 with 1GB memory with no direct access from the Internet and I was told : "this is not urgent, we have to release first". And the project goes on without finding real solutions to issues. Right, it was just a thought and I don't want to hurt anyone by this mail. Anyway, I really think we should concentrate on efficient things before adding any new features to OSCAR. Goals are: - to get new developpers -> ease installation of development environment for OSCAR - to get new users -> ease the installation of OSCAR Best regards, Jean
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