Hi Abhishek, Thanks for your contribution. Yes, if you can spend any time to improve/test crispy on F8, F7, or RHEL4, that would be great. Of course, we have bugs listed on trac and if you can find a bug that you can fix easily, please do so. http://svn.oscar.openclustergroup.org/trac/oscar/report
Regards, - DongInn Abhishek K wrote: > All, > > Apologies if I am slightly OT here. > > I wanted to take this opportunity to introduce myself here. I am > Abhishek, a CS graduate student at Indiana University. So as Donginn > introduced me on one of the telecons some weeks back, I am working on > integration of PERCEUS ( http://www.perceus.org/) -- which has evolved > from Warewulf -- with OSCAR, to enable diskless provisioning with OSCAR. > > I don't intend to change the course of this post, but Jean's concerns > about usability seem very important to me. Over the course of my work on > this project, I realized this to be a not-so-good time to touch OSCAR > since things are fast-changing and there has been a major restructuring > of a few things. This has helped me in a way that I have got to learn a > lot about the OSCAR code base by means of testing the nightlys, trunk, > crispy -- by touching-tweaking-patching to move on. > > If the project needs developers / testers / people who can just stand up > for any kind of help, I would be more than eager to help. > > OSCAR on :) > Abhishek > > > > On Dec 7, 2007 11:59 AM, Jean Parpaillon < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > Hi, > > Since a few days, I was assigned to solve a bug on crispy branch. All my > machines are on Debian and this branch does not support it. So, I've > installed Fedora Core. I began from the latest, the 8th, on a vmware > machine. - about 1 hour - > Then, I checked out the branch from SVN. As I know it's big, I wanted to > do it on the host and export by NFS. After fighting with NFS and vmware > for some time unfortunately, I gave up and checked out SVN directly on > the vmware machine. With all the RPMs (99% unuseful for me), I've > downloaded 1.1GB. > So after, couple of hours, I have a running machine with OSCAR svn > checked out. > > Then, I ran 'make test' and it failed because " Fedora Core 8' is not > supported. Why it is not supported ? I don't know. Usually, when I want > to install a software, I know that it depends on certain version of > certain software. Hence, I can upgrade some pieces of software. Here, > with OSCAR, no. I just know that "distribution <bla> is not supported". > End. > > > So, I returned to step 0 (installing Fedora Core 7 on a vmware machine, > checking SVN, etc.). > > 2 days later (I can not spend my whole day playing with OSCAR), I run > make test and I have: > ERROR: Impossible to detect the distro associated to the pool > /tftpboot/distro/fedora-7-i386 > > > > STOP ! I give up. I won't fix this bug I could not even see as I never > could run OSCAR. The bug is about modifying scripts paths: all needed > information is here > http://svn.oscar.openclustergroup.org/trac/oscar/wiki/opkgAPI#APIscripts > > > > 2 years ago, when I tried OSCAR for the first time, I had the same > issues and I thought I was dumb. But, finally, after trying times and > times to install it, I just succeeded 1 time to see the wizard and > deploying an image. When I tried again, the wizard failed. > > So all this story to say that I refuse to release an OSCAR version > which > does not install easily. Installation manual is a _book_, it should > contain only "./configure && make && make install". I don't want to > download 1GB from SVN to have a look at 100 lines of Perl. FMHO, these > are the priorities, and not integrating HA, new fs, or new killing > feature. > > I know that I don't bring any solution in this mail but I just want to > speak about the goal of the project, which is to bring an _easy_ > solution to deploy cluster. During the last developers meeting, we > agreed on the fact that one of the solution to ease the deployment was > to have online repository (one of the reason is to get rid of these tons > of RPMs downloaded by SVN). I also think that on these repositories, > packages must be compiled automatically. Each time spent to compile an > RPM could be used to help developping an automatic build platform. But > instead of that, I tried to develop one on 2 old P3 with 1GB memory > with > no direct access from the Internet and I was told : "this is not urgent, > we have to release first". And the project goes on without finding real > solutions to issues. > > Right, it was just a thought and I don't want to hurt anyone by this > mail. Anyway, I really think we should concentrate on efficient things > before adding any new features to OSCAR. Goals are: > - to get new developpers -> ease installation of development environment > for OSCAR > - to get new users -> ease the installation of OSCAR > > Best regards, > Jean > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. > It's the best place to buy or sell services for > just about anything Open Source. > http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php > <http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php> > _______________________________________________ > Oscar-devel mailing list > [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oscar-devel > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is sponsored by: > Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. > It's the best place to buy or sell services for > just about anything Open Source. > http://sourceforge.net/services/buy/index.php > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Oscar-devel mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/oscar-devel ------------------------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Check out the new SourceForge.net Marketplace. 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