Hi,

Any help on trunk is also welcome, i am the only one to really work on
trunk currently, i think i am close to have something that works but i
am only testing with Debian.

Let me know you want to contribute on that topic and if you have any
quesitons.

Thanks.

On Mon, 2007-12-10 at 22:29 -0500, DongInn Kim wrote:
> Hi Abhishek,
> 
> Thanks for your contribution. Yes, if you can spend any time to improve/test 
> crispy on F8, F7, or RHEL4, that would be great.
> Of course, we have bugs listed on trac and if you can find a bug that you can 
> fix easily, please do so.
> http://svn.oscar.openclustergroup.org/trac/oscar/report
> 
> Regards,
> 
> - DongInn
> 
> 
> Abhishek K wrote:
> > All,
> > 
> > Apologies if I am slightly OT here.
> > 
> > I wanted to take this opportunity to introduce myself here. I am
> > Abhishek, a CS graduate student at Indiana University. So as Donginn
> > introduced me on one of the telecons some weeks back, I am working on
> > integration of PERCEUS ( http://www.perceus.org/) -- which has evolved
> > from Warewulf -- with OSCAR, to enable diskless provisioning with OSCAR.
> > 
> > I don't intend to change the course of this post, but Jean's concerns
> > about usability seem very important to me. Over the course of my work on
> > this project, I realized this to be a not-so-good time to touch OSCAR
> > since things are fast-changing and there has been a major restructuring
> > of a few things. This has helped me in a way that I have got to learn a
> > lot about the OSCAR code base by means of testing the nightlys, trunk,
> > crispy -- by touching-tweaking-patching to move on.
> > 
> > If the project needs developers / testers / people who can just stand up
> > for any kind of help, I would be more than eager to help.
> > 
> > OSCAR on :)
> > Abhishek
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Dec 7, 2007 11:59 AM, Jean Parpaillon < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> > 
> >     Hi,
> > 
> >     Since a few days, I was assigned to solve a bug on crispy branch. All my
> >     machines are on Debian and this branch does not support it. So, I've
> >     installed Fedora Core. I began from the latest, the 8th, on a vmware
> >     machine. - about 1 hour -
> >     Then, I checked out the branch from SVN. As I know it's big, I wanted to
> >     do it on the host and export by NFS. After fighting with NFS and vmware
> >     for some time unfortunately, I gave up and checked out SVN directly on
> >     the vmware machine. With all the RPMs (99% unuseful for me), I've
> >     downloaded 1.1GB.
> >     So after, couple of hours, I have a running machine with OSCAR svn
> >     checked out.
> > 
> >     Then, I ran 'make test' and it failed because " Fedora Core 8' is not
> >     supported. Why it is not supported ? I don't know. Usually, when I want
> >     to install a software, I know that it depends on certain version of
> >     certain software. Hence, I can upgrade some pieces of software. Here,
> >     with OSCAR, no. I just know that  "distribution <bla> is not supported".
> >     End.
> > 
> > 
> >     So, I returned to step 0 (installing Fedora Core 7 on a vmware machine,
> >     checking SVN, etc.).
> > 
> >     2 days later (I can not spend my whole day playing with OSCAR), I run
> >     make test and I have:
> >     ERROR: Impossible to detect the distro associated to the pool
> >     /tftpboot/distro/fedora-7-i386
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >     STOP ! I give up. I won't fix this bug I could not even see as I never
> >     could run OSCAR. The bug is about modifying scripts paths: all needed
> >     information is here
> >     http://svn.oscar.openclustergroup.org/trac/oscar/wiki/opkgAPI#APIscripts
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >     2 years ago, when I tried OSCAR for the first time, I had the same
> >     issues and I thought I was dumb. But, finally, after trying times and
> >     times to install it, I just succeeded 1 time to see the wizard and
> >     deploying an image. When I tried again, the wizard failed.
> > 
> >     So all this story to say that I refuse to release an OSCAR version
> >     which
> >     does not install easily. Installation manual is a _book_, it should
> >     contain only "./configure && make && make install". I don't want to
> >     download 1GB from SVN to have a look at 100 lines of Perl. FMHO,  these
> >     are the priorities, and not integrating HA, new fs, or new killing
> >     feature.
> > 
> >     I know that I don't bring any solution in this mail but I just want to
> >     speak about the goal of the project, which is to bring an _easy_
> >     solution to deploy cluster. During the last developers meeting, we
> >     agreed on the fact that one of the solution to ease the deployment was
> >     to have online repository (one of the reason is to get rid of these tons
> >     of RPMs downloaded by SVN). I also think that on these repositories,
> >     packages must be compiled automatically. Each time spent to compile an
> >     RPM could be used to help developping an automatic build platform. But
> >     instead of that, I tried to develop one on 2 old P3 with 1GB memory
> >     with
> >     no direct access from the Internet and I was told : "this is not urgent,
> >     we have to release first".  And the project goes on without finding real
> >     solutions to issues.
> > 
> >     Right, it was just a thought and I don't want to hurt anyone by this
> >     mail. Anyway, I really think we should concentrate on efficient things
> >     before adding any new features to OSCAR. Goals are:
> >     - to get new developpers -> ease installation of development environment
> >     for OSCAR
> >     - to get new users -> ease the installation of OSCAR
> > 
> >     Best regards,
> >     Jean
> > 
> > 
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