Advocate Boh, I hope 2012 will be prevented by one more devil. (That its actually just some magnetic pole shift casued by constellation alignment recharging that makes the earth changes its poles again and big flood, earthquakes etc. In another sense, 2012 is probably fated to do mankind alot of good. That is why the Great HitchHiker took Michael Jackson first!)
Back to your post. I noted some nice points: >IKEA style. I wonder if we can start putting prices even on our wares. Download - USD10 per annum subscription / Hi-bandwidth USD2000 p.a. (Freedom license included for u to modify and send back guarantee) >ERP including Health. Indeed, you are not left out but sitting on top of the stack as a vertical. See my slides on the differentiaition by each university. ERP is just a horizontal. Dont complicate the battlefield even before the battle has begun. :) >ADempiere as M'sian product. Precisely the reason why i want to reclaim it via this proposal. Born in my farm, raised as a worldwide empire, can't I, its emperor raise my own army on my own soil and nuke Berlin? red1 Boh Yap wrote: > hi Red1 > > I've always supported you, and I've also been yr devil's advocate. > > I agree with Azrul, its 'simplicity' that sells. Adempiere as it is > now is too complex, granted that ERP is complex, but Mat Din Sdn Bhd > just needs soemthng that works without having to spend 3 mths training > and 6 mths implementation. > > I one-click install CD is required, and due to the very wide usage of > ERP, perhaps that install CD should prompt the user with a few > questions - then create the config that he needs. Perhaps we can use a > few 'templates' for different industry and/or business types/profiles. > ie: templates for: > > 1. single outlet retail shop - your regular mom-pop grecery store with a POS > 2. multi-outlet retail shop with centralised/distributed store. > 3. manufacturer, that needs te usual pls supply-chain, MRP > 4. export manf. that needs all of above + foreign currency accounting > 5. some gov organisation.... > .... > and the list goes on. > > Notice what is needed is: > > - Market knowledge - which of the above profiles are most in demand > (or most profitable - in terms of revenue, startgic importance etc...) > > - Domain knowledge - someone who knows enough about each of those > insdustry from the biz. perspective. > > - Technical knowhow - to develop/code the 'smart configurator'. > Or maybe make these into plugin modules so different ppl can > contribute 'configurators' for different business types, perhaps even > 'sell, make money' from licensing these!! > > Now bundle Adempiere, together with a bunch of 'smart configurators' > on a CD and I'm sure it'll be a success. Also copy Canonical, by > sending a CD to anyone who emails in for one.... > > Also may set up a "Configurator App Store" like an iPhone store, and > let others contribute and sell... of course there will be offers for > paid consultancy etc.... > > (my take on OSS is like IKEA furniture, it comes in a flat box with > "some assembly required", you have to fiddle with it to assemble it. > If you can't or are too lazy to read the instructions and do it > yourself, then you can pay someone to do it for you, but unfortunately > Msian's are too lazy and too ignorant... don't understand the concept > of RTFM, for OSS... no?) > > > 2 Questions to yr proposal... > > 1. Why restrict it to ERP? > If anything, healthcare is even more important! As per my presentation > > "FOSS + Healthcare = lives" ... its about saving lives. > > And we as Masians have a shot at this... I'll tell you why when we meet... > > And from a politcal and social responsibility POV, has a better chance of > getting funding. > > 2. Can't really claim Adempiere as a Msian product right? > How many Msian developers in there? ...;-) > ...hence M'sian gift to the world? > (maybe need another branding, like Ubuntu & Linux? - MyDempiere & > Adempiere ;-) > > As I've always said and Azrul has pointed out, Msia needs more > technical ppl, > hard-core coders, who can develop real kick-ass applications. > But sadly, few wanna be coders... even in the MyGOSSCON BOF, > not many attended the 'real technical' BOF sessions! by us Python guys ;-) > > (or because they were not into Python and are PHP, Java... c'mon get over > the language issues, its the core concepts, that count.) > > And I'll definitely say, its not easy being a programmer, you need > a fair level > of intelligence, hard-work and creativity. Oh, I think M'sians are > smart enough, > at least to avoid being a programmer! (sic) > > And so long as this situation remains, we'll be 2nd class citizens > in the internet world, we are only consumers, we'll never be creators > of technology. And those of us who are in the programming craft, as > Azrul sez, will eventually find work outside of M'sia, (although, with > the internet, we don't have to leave, but may continue to live here... > ;-) > > (this has always been my rant.. Msians must develop the skills... but > are too afraid to do so.) > > As Alan Kay (inventor of the GUI, concept of notebook, Smalltalk.. and > a super geek) says: > > "In the future if someone doesn't know how to use a computer, it will > be like being illiterate, the world of knowledge will be shut off from > him. But if you he does not know how to program, its like he does not > know how to write, he will not be able to create..." > > He said this in the early-mid 80's, and its this quote that got me > back into being a programmer after I had been a 'manager' for a while. > ;-) > > > ..there, did my rant prevent 2012 from massive volcanic eruptions, and > an cataclysmic asteroid colision? > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
